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Cedrik / Cedric Brazeau returns, in a hacking attack on the Phuket Poker Community Cedrik / Cedric Brazeau returns, in a hacking attack on the Phuket Poker Community

01-07-2013 , 11:59 AM
So sorry to hear about this especially about him getting locals to follow you guys and stuff.

Surely if like 30 people including some Thais went to the police station and each made complaints against him they would have to act in some way, at least they would pass on his name and details to immigration. Then he could be registered as Persona non grata and next time he went to immigration or crossed a boarder he could be detained or deported/not allowed to stay in Thailand.

Why no recent pics? Phuket grinders and their friends are pretty snap happy when going out and stuff.
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01-07-2013 , 12:01 PM
This is one of the most extreme cases of social engineering.
I advise anyone who has had contact with this predator to re-install OS and do not put any remote viewing software on your PC.
Remove admin rights also and change all passwords and install password management tools.
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01-07-2013 , 12:28 PM
wish this clown would ever show his face in LA.
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01-07-2013 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by billybeartku
I'm curious about the actions the community are about to take against the said guy in this matter. Would police be able to help?
Unless its something serious, that can hit the medias and tarnish Thai reputation, local police doesnt care much about farang-on-farang crime.
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01-07-2013 , 01:41 PM
can't imagine thai police ever getting involved in this, best bet is to hire a Private investigator to track him find out where he is staying and then decide what you wanna do with him, so to speak.
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01-07-2013 , 02:06 PM
iirc Thai police is considered a criminial organization by the United Nations so lol at getting them involved

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Originally Posted by idonot
21/06/2010 link to a canadian forum in french
http://forum.pokercollectif.com/pas-...e-hackeur.html
apparently those kind of informations are,sadly and unfortunately, not new
As a French Canadian I can understand this horribly written text, but I feel painful for anyone not speaking French as their first language. I dont think putting this in google translate would do any good either... so here are the cliffs :

- gives link to another thread (written even more horribly) where someone found viruses on his computer after being at Cedric`s place. He got Cedric`s confession using strength. Another person witness some questionable behaviors of Cedric.

- private message from Cedric saying : "You know what happened recently. I have been accused of hacking poker players. I am guilty. I have now many connections in franco hacking world. Even if I made hundreds of thousand playing poker, I saw an opportunity to make more money. Is it bad? Yes absolutely. Did I hack only one player? No"

then he warns us that Cedric uses many identities on different forums and is a very good manipulator

Last edited by JimmyJack; 01-07-2013 at 02:14 PM.
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01-07-2013 , 02:20 PM
Are you in contact with any Thais helping to find him? Where was he last seen?
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01-07-2013 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rutang
+1, this post accurately represents my position
+1
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01-07-2013 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex0r
It doesn't really work like that over here.

My laptop was stolen, luckily im too busto to have had my accounts touched (although my full tilt acc was logged into/pasword changed).
Why not report the laptop stolen at least and tell the police that you have a strong suspicion that this guy did it. It cannot hurt you in anyway, and it is better than doing nothing at least.
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01-07-2013 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Probability
Looking forward to the evidence and stuff.

+ infinity


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Originally Posted by Land Of The Free?
lol, you mean the people who will take a small bribe to let you out of literally any situation that hasn't yet reached the media?

Here's a wild thought. Go to the media???
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01-07-2013 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BanSooners
+ infinity





Here's a wild thought. Go to the media???
lol. Are you serious?
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01-07-2013 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BanSooners
+ infinity





Here's a wild thought. Go to the media???
Wild indeed...The media don't care about that story, are you serious?
There's no proof, it's just a bunch of allegations on a few poker forums that some French Canadian guy is cheating some poker players in Phuket. "Crazy story! Let's run that ****!"

lol

You're not going to get anything from the cops or the media or the poker community. Actually you're not going to get anything if you're a victim of that guy, unless you're willing to take matters into your own hands or pay someone to do it, which probably isn't worth it because you still most likely wouldn't get your money back.

But if it's a lot of money and you're into revenge big time, I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to figure something out. I mean, it's Thailand...just make sure you leave the country before anything happens to him.
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01-07-2013 , 02:50 PM
Go to the media and tell them you are a member of a community of Farangs that live in Thailand with the express intent of breaking the law?

I don't think so.
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01-07-2013 , 02:59 PM
While I understand your reluctance to contact the thai police, there is a foreign scammer arrested pretty much every day on phuket ranging from credit card skimmers to online scammers who did their crimes outside of thailand - all of them were not able to bribe their way out of this in any way.

If you have solid, non poker related evidence on his crimes (like CCTV of him breaking in somewhere or w/e) then it might be a good idea to present it to the thai police.

I'm not sure if the police in his home country cares about all of this, but it might be another angle.
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01-07-2013 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Land Of The Free?
But if it's a lot of money and you're into revenge big time, I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to figure something out. I mean, it's Thailand...just make sure you leave the country before anything happens to him.
Lol internet tough talk.

While there has always been some semi intentional scamming going on by people running bad / living beyond their means / having strings of losing months / that went completely busto, I think he's the first poker player in thailand that turned into a serious criminal with apparently local criminal accomplices.

Your average grinder is in thailand to have fun under the sun and not out to make friends with thai criminals that can make "something happen to him".
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01-07-2013 , 03:16 PM
Btw. I'm surprised that he was able to operate for so long without a thread like this, given the fact that he started to drug and rob people over 2 years ago.
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01-07-2013 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by straightflushin
Your average grinder is in thailand to have fun under the sun and not out to make friends with thai criminals that can make "something happen to him".
If you are an expat living the high life in a third-world ****hole... oops, I mean a "developing country"... and you don't arrange protection, then you really shouldn't be shocked and sad when something bad happens to you.

That's one of the reasons I never went.
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01-07-2013 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoPro
If you are an expat living the high life in a third-world ****hole... oops, I mean a "developing country"... and you don't arrange protection, then you really shouldn't be shocked and sad when something bad happens to you.

That's one of the reasons I never went.
I think you have a strange idea about thailand. It's a developing country but aside from petty scams nothing bad will ever happen to you unless you're seeking trouble or involve yourself with other foreigners that are up to no good.
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01-07-2013 , 03:30 PM
More info from 2010: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hacker-724559/

Maybe he's using the stolen laptops for bitcoin mining?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?ac...3;sa=showPosts

His MSN (probably not in use anymore): Feltar_darn@hotmail.com

2P2 profile: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/116878/
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01-07-2013 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by straightflushin
Lol internet tough talk.

While there has always been some semi intentional scamming going on by people running bad / living beyond their means / having strings of losing months / that went completely busto, I think he's the first poker player in thailand that turned into a serious criminal with apparently local criminal accomplices.

Your average grinder is in thailand to have fun under the sun and not out to make friends with thai criminals that can make "something happen to him".
Hmm...I never said I'd do it or even that it's the right thing to do, I just said it wouldn't be hard and I stand by that.

First of all there's no evidence or even close to it that he's tied to the Thai criminal underworld.
The locals he's tied with are most likely other French Canadians, as he mentions in his PM to that guy.

This is a really poor country we're talking about, you can pay a huge % of the population very little money to do a lot of stuff, that's just a fact (not saying it's great, we're just talking facts).

I've sold debt once before. What's funny is that before the guy failed to pay me back, I had all those thoughts of "man, if this mother****er doesn't pay me back, I'll....(insert random scene from Casino)", but in reality it took me 3 months to actually muster the courage to do it.

In the end, it was incredibly simple and painless. I found a friend of a friend of a friend who after hearing the whole story, including scammer's description, etc...said he'd be happy to do it. He wasn't a "pro" collector or anything, just a pretty tough guy who knew he could make the guy I'd described pay up a very high % of the time.
He told me the guy coughed up the money almost instantly, pretty much shaking and profusely apologizing throughout the entire process.
No one was hurt and that was it.

I could've probably gotten my own money back, but I hate confrontations and I don't look very dangerous at all, so his reaction might've been very different.
Also if it'd turned out nasty, I didn't want to go to jail for something like that.

Bottomline is, it's really not hard at all to find someone who'll do that kind of stuff in the US, there's a lot of semi-broke tough guys who'll be happy to take a shot at making a teenage geek cough up scammed money, so in Thailand I have to assume it'd be easier than getting Pad Thai.

When I said "before something happens to him", I meant "if" something happens to him.
I wasn't talking about paying someone to bump him off, I guess i should've made that clearer, I was talking about selling debt for however much you think you've been scammed.
You just don't want to be around in case something does happen to him, but I'd expect that to be very unlikely.
I don't have any experience with that stuff besides that one time, but I doubt most scammers, especially in the online poker world, are going to try to mess around with the average debt collector.


EDIT: Obviously a lot of unforseen bad stuff can happen (you get scammed/threatened yourself by some serious Thai gangster, etc...) and again, I'm not saying it's a great idea, which is why I said "IF it's a lot money AND you're into revenge big time", then yeah...it's definitely doable for sure, and pretty easily.



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Originally Posted by straightflushin
I'm not sure if the police in his home country cares about all of this, but it might be another angle.
And yeah, that's definitely worth looking into.
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01-07-2013 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by straightflushin
Btw. I'm surprised that he was able to operate for so long without a thread like this, given the fact that he started to drug and rob people over 2 years ago.
There was a thread in BBV about 2 years ago about him stealing everything from the 2 guys he was living with while they were out. I have no idea why the thread has been deleted but it no longer exists. The link in the OP is a part of the OP of that thread.
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01-07-2013 , 03:48 PM
Seems he scammed pumpui almost 5 years ago in thailand?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...5&postcount=94
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01-07-2013 , 03:56 PM
Land of the free: Why are you talking about a guy you don't know...? Bluestaze is capable of EVERYTHING (capital letter for a reason!) and if some victims/witnesses/associates don't post it's because they are scare of what he might do to them.
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01-07-2013 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Land Of The Free?
Bottomline is, it's really not hard at all to find someone who'll do that kind of stuff in the US, there's a lot of semi-broke tough guys who'll be happy to take a shot at making a teenage geek cough up scammed money, so in Thailand I have to assume it'd be easier than getting Pad Thai.
Most thai tough guys will not speak english and there aren't a lot of them anyway as thais are buddhists and pretty peaceful in general unless alcohol and hurt pride is involved.

There was a killing of someone in the stock boiler room world of BKK a while ago though by a competitor. The guy who ordered the hit got extradited back to thailand, despite high level connections that enabled him to escape the country in the first place when the local police was looking to arrest him.
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01-07-2013 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TomaTe
Land of the free: Why are you talking about a guy you don't know...? Bluestaze is capable of EVERYTHING (capital letter for a reason!) and if some victims/witnesses/associates don't post it's because they are scare of what he might do to them.
A very small portion of my post was about that guy specifically, I was mostly talking about my experience of the logistics and difficulty of selling debt.

I just said there was up to that point itt no evidence as to his connections to the Thai underworld, and because he's a scammer within the online community and based on that post about his being connected to "franco hackers", I made the assumption that he's likely more of a geek/coward scammer than anything, but if you tell me you know for a fact that guy is actually a dangerous gangster, I'll take your word for it.

Straighflushin, I'm not disagreeing with you. Again, I never said "yo, you should pay someone to torture that guy to death and leave him in a dumpster somewhere", I just said that if you know people (in a similar way to what theplayer541 describes), it shouldn't be hard to sell the debt at a certain % of what you've been scammed for, but again, if that Bluestaze guy is truly a killing machine and not a bad ADZ impression (which seems unlikely with a name as gay as Bluestaze, but who knows...), it's probably not worth the trouble.
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