- Not everyone has easy access to play live poker (I have to drive 2 hours and then put myself on a waiting list)
- It's harder to be rolled to play 1 table of 500NL than it is to mass table small stakes online.
- Live poker is depressing as hell, so many degenerates, so boring.

I've played both with success, online is much much tougher these days. Played about 2.5 million hands online before switching to live. 25NL online 3 years ago is still clearly harder than 200NL/500NL live now. I've never heard of anyone who has had success at both that thought online wasn't much tougher in today's climate. There are way fewer fish/table online, and the good players are a lot better.

Your analogy was bad because in online you play anyone in the world, whereas live you play anyone in your immediate area. Also live is mind-numbingly slow-paced so you gain tons of equity just by other people being impatient, which is not so much the case online.

Oh great, another discussion about how difficult 25NL is. Poker geniuses ITT lol

25NL 3 years ago was not difficult, that's the point. Live 200/500NL is a joke.

BTW you may be a troll but your sign up date and post count is real, so the joke is on you.

let me try to understand this for you.

If a winning NL 100 or NL 200 player used their basic strat and could play 5-10 tables of 2/5 Live at the same time, they would crush (minus a little cuz no tools)

But they can only play one table of 2/5 Live at a time. So they would either have to adjust strat as strat that made them win at multitabling online wont work the same way on a single table of live.

If winning NL 100 /200 online playerss could crush a single table of 2/5 live for any sort of living wages, then rooms would have been infested with these players after black friday.

rooms are not infested with them.

thus they cant.

But if it makes you feel better to say you are boss and can crush 2/5 live and those players are all muppets because you are just that wicked smart then grats and merry Christmas.

You are assuming that players want to sit in a casino all day long with a bunch of degenerates after losing the ability to play online poker. Well that isn't the case.

But you're defending the "everyone is good at something else and nobody is better than someone else" argument so good luck with it.

yeh ptlou you're diggin a pretty big hole here, i'd just stop

+1

I'm going to cuss out the next nerd who brings this up out of nowhere

The mob has spoken. Its usually better to defer to the NVG mob as the NVG mob is usually correct.

I defer.

I take back all my recent posts calling out the lameness of online grinders basically saying lolliveplayers. my posts were flawed.

Thank god for the clarification

If you were only dealt one hand every 90 seconds online and you could only play one table and there were no bots allowed and no outside programs of any kind allowed and you had to play in a room full of people, music, microphone noise, etc, online would be "a joke" too.

Comparing skill levels of online and live is ignorant at this point. Online is a very technical game and live is a very psychological game/they are two different games. Being good (or bad) at one game does not mean you will be good (or bad) at the other--> almost no live pros could get their same EV online, and vice versa.

Back to what's important...

Someone rich and reputable and in the know set a line (i.e. Hall -115/Dentale + 105) and start taking bets and then move the line as need be imo. The more action on this the more attention it will get obv. This could actually be really big for poker regardless of the outcome.

After podcast.

Mike >>>>>>>>>>> Cate

I retract half of my post calling both douches.


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most of us are lazy gamers, poker is just another video game, to me it was just like farming gold in a game except it happened to be real money and allowed me to buy everything I needed in life, running a business is completely different

link?

YouTube > joeingram1 > channel > videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbzMj4QQa_M


Says he has played plenty of heads up and does not want coaching.

Why the heck do a podcast while driving? After 30 seconds of the neck shot I was done.

What podcast are you talking about?

Listen to the pod don't watch it. But yeah he had some contradictions but some good qualities too. Of course he's presenting his best but he seems to value honorable traits and admit shortcomings (i.e. Lack of self control in conflict, short fuse, emotional , etc. )

Def comes from the hard knocks and his life experience is 200x more impressive than ms. Hall and he doesn't come off as I'm better than you. (Unless you say sompen he don't like).

I like when he said something like "hell if she beats me that will be funny and she can stick it to me " or something. It would destroy him after all the **** he said but at least he sees it would be hilarious for us and can laugh about that part.

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wrong

wrong. if we have 4 dentales and 4 halls at the table average winning 200nl online grinder will KILL murder pillage and rape over any meaningful sample. u don't know wtf u're talking about. u prolly don't even play poker outside donkaments and drunken 1/2 with your buddies or home game. u prolly think degreanu is goat and wear dark or reflective glasses when u play.u're prolly over 45 and hate "those online kids". if u saw phil gaymuth you'd prolly ask for an autograph and poker wisdom.u're the opposite of the most interesting man in the world. u prolly think u ran bad... for the last 25 years.

how the **** are these 2 even "pros"? what a mockery of the game.

what legit pro gets backed for CASH? unless it's super nose bleeds. pathetic.

wrong. im sorry u dont c them in your drunken 1/2 but there are plenty in high stakes cash. the higher u go the more of them u c.