your relevancy has depended and been perpetuated by ub.

after spending some time reading helplessly meandering through your blogs and articles and posts its hard for me to believe you arent intimately aware of this.

ofc , im sure you will are just on the verge of releasing the pertinent info, that you happen to find yourself privileged to at convenient intervals.

777: hi
VIP: Thank you for contacting Rai$e. My name is Sydney. How may I help you?
777whi sydney
777: i need to cash out a few thousand dollars and ub isnt letting me
777: its quite important that i have this money soon
VIP: I'm afraid it's not possible. The max allowed per week is $250
777: thats ridiculous
777: this is very imortant, i owe someone money and if i dont pay them im dead
777: like seriously, i need 5k real quick hey
VIP: Unfortunately there is nothing we can do, right now it is not possible to increase the limits and no exceptions apply.
777: why is that not possible!
777: this is a very urgent situation
777: i have no other means to come up with the money
777: not in 2 weeks
VIP: I'm sorry but we cannot increase your limit that is final.
777: can u forward this to your superiors please?
VIP: Sure
777: now?
VIP: Our superior is the manager which I am sorry to say is not in at this time so you'll have to wait either way. Although please do not assume that your withdraw limits may be increased, for now they will not and $250 week is what you will be able to withdraw. If there are any changes on this we will make sure to let you know.
777: why am i being punished, im a valued customer to this site and im in some serious financial matters, im just asking for my own money
VIP: Please note that this is no punishment at all, unfortunately Due to recent developments in the United States and changes to withdrawal policy requests are currently limited to a $250 maximum per week.
777: until when
777: i need 5k, like soon
777: not over the next 6 moths
VIP: We don't know yet
777: well what do you know?
VIP: What I told you just now, it is all the information we have available.

General Support: Thank you for contacting the Customer Support Department. My name is Josh. How may I help you?
ME: Just wondering if you have any info on when you will be releasing another statement
ME: i noticed ub.com didnt have the seized page anymore so i was wondering if you guys came to a deal with the DOJ
General Support: No word on another statement no. Our company’s counsel, Blank Rome LLP, has initiated communications with the US Attorney’s office regarding this situation.
ME: Thanks
General Support: But we have not received any other updates besides that.

Euro or not the limit is 250$.
F*** me and f*** the day I decided to play here. I deserve it ...

Like what? A new case? Something else?

I suppose that is probably better than depending on tens of thousands of posts on an internet forum. As to the rest of your post, switch to beer.

People need to learn to be patient.

Annoying the $hit out of VIP chat by asking them the same questions that everyone else is asking, won't get you any information or your money.

It has been established that the people on the other end of the chat, have,
a) no new information
b) no powers to get you your money fast

At this point, no one knows exactly what happening with CEREUS.

And obv only non-US ppl should be complaining if anyone at all. Even Stars/FTP haven't come up with anything substantial for their US players except for the standard "your money is safe" statement.

The difference is that Victor's posts have actually contributed to the online holdem community.

What do u guys (people havin money on Cereus) think about gettin a unification to pay some lawyers against Cereus to at least try to get our money back?

Do u guys think it could be a good idea to start a thread about this?

Just let me know... As it goes I think Cereus will just die and our money as well

Way too early for that.

That would be like getting rear ended by a guy in a 1989 Honda Accord with no car insurance. And then trying to sue him for 500k

so we don't start the process now but we could at least set it up to be ready when it s time to ...

I know what u mean... but I think the situation is a bit different... because our money is stuck somewhere probably the bank from ecosse ... and the lawers would get a piece of the cake

What exactly would you be trying to set up?

first 250 requested friday, still nothing as of monday

Following from last week:

If we compare
combined peak figures for Sat 09 Apr and Sun 10 Apr (last weekend before Black Friday)
against
combined peak figures for Sat 23 Apr and Sun 24 Apr (2 weeks later, second post-Black Friday weekend)

Cereus have now lost 68.4% of its traffic (in mere 2 weeks).

Of course Easter weekend can be a factor. But if the trend continues Cereus will soon be a ghost site.

(Figures: pokerscout)

60%+ of Cereus players were from the U.S. while percentages of Stars' and Tilt's players from the U.S. were much lower. So, it's no wonder Cereus took a bigger % hit. But you're right; Cereus needs to do something ASAP. Part of me wonders if Cereus is thinking about giving the bird to the DOJ and finding a way to continue operations in the U.S. Whatever it does, it needs to do it fast.

They are encouraging US players to continue playing! If all the US players were prevented from playing their hit would be even higher. I talked with a payments guy that already has a job lined up. He is now being intentionally rude with people for the lulz, they are not even processing those $250 withdrawals. I've had one sitting there since the day they cancelled my black friday payout and restricted payouts to $250. They are showing signs of insolvency and their lack of communication just makes it worse.

I am pinning my hopes on the DOJ using their confiscated funds to facilitate payouts 6+ months from now.

same here...not only do they max cashouts at $250 but they cant even pay that $250 in a timely matter...not looking good

with their politic, and the strategy they seem to have... I really think like most of us they run to an end very quick... this is why starting something against them very quick is prob the best idea

I think you have some misunderstandings about the justice system. First, it would take some time just to get a civil judgement against them. And, once you get your judgment, you will have no effective way of collecting on the judgment. Collecting on the judgment would be next to impossible. If the DOJ can't get additional money out of them, why do you think you'd be able to?

Put another way, if Cereus goes bankrupt, there is nothing to get. And Cereus can file bankruptcy/go out of business a lot faster than you could get a judgment and collect on that judgment. This is true even if you called a lawyer and started the process today.

The best hope for getting your money is for Cereus to remain solvent. If Cereus can stay afloat, they will have a lot of incentive (even without a lawsuit) to eventually pay everyone.

Ive learned gambling911.com isnt the most reliable source but it tweeted out that UB/Absolute was going to fight this thru Antigua and the WTO. Not sure what that means though for getting my/our money out quicker.

it says they MAY fight it

Is/May whatever. Still would like to know the benefits/negatives of doing so.

Probably won't mean much for poker players - the US will settle as it did the last time (for another 20 million or so). It's cheaper for the US to settle with Antigua as the money they'll get from Stars and Tilt settling will run into hundreds of millions.