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Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post. Brian "Stinger88" Hastings Multi-Accounting as "NoelHayes" Cliffs in first post.

06-22-2015 , 04:13 PM
I still think it's super sick he never even threw some money back at Viktor. I mean Viktor is a degen but at time he was assuming he was playing one person, not three.
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06-22-2015 , 04:15 PM
What is the benefit of buying an account instead of just making a new one?

Pretty obvious looking at NoelHayes on OPR that someone else is playing on the account in 2015.
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06-22-2015 , 04:38 PM
Disappointing that Brian hasn't addressed the NoelHayes accusation. If true that's easily worse than what he's accused the other dude of doing at the final table imo.
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06-22-2015 , 05:59 PM
I'd be surprised if he denied it at this point. The story as relayed to me is that he's been on the account for some time, and has been telling his friendly opponents his identity

It's just common knowledge at this point, I think playing with reads on a player that has been around for 10 years on the same name as another well-known player on a readless screenname is top scummy

I'm not super wronged from a financial perspective, in fact I think people who bracelet bet thinking he had a certain amount of XP in the weeks leading up to the series probably have a bigger beef than me
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06-23-2015 , 12:14 AM
So no one really cares about MA anymore?
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06-23-2015 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bakes
I'd be surprised if he denied it at this point. The story as relayed to me is that he's been on the account for some time, and has been telling his friendly opponents his identity

It's just common knowledge at this point, I think playing with reads on a player that has been around for 10 years on the same name as another well-known player on a readless screenname is top scummy

I'm not super wronged from a financial perspective, in fact I think people who bracelet bet thinking he had a certain amount of XP in the weeks leading up to the series probably have a bigger beef than me
Has he been out of the country or VPNing from the US on the Hayes account?
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06-23-2015 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 70months
Disappointing that Brian hasn't addressed the NoelHayes accusation. If true that's easily worse than what he's accused the other dude of doing at the final table imo.
Ask him about his million dollar condo and he'll reply in minutes....
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06-23-2015 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by geoffoakley
Its been pretty common knowledge round circles in dublin for about a month now it was hastings on the account. People that know noel knew he was too smart to just jump into those high stakes games so it was only a matter of who it was and people close to noel revealed it was hastings pretty quickly. It was surprising how relaxed people were in keeping the whole situation secret. Not sure how much accounts like this sell for but don't imagine noel doing it for the money. He's fairly well off by all accounts. He's had some high profile jobs with gambling firms like boylesports, paddy power and tote in Ireland. He also had a large share of the horse our conor who won the grand national in the UK swell as shares in many other horses. He has always been known as ,how do i put this, a slimy individual though and a huge fanboy of high stakes players so who knows... Its also been said that mark davis acted as sort of a middleman for the transaction. Not sure if thats true though but would be surprised if it wasn't. Makes you wonder how big of a business buying and selling accounts is.
Our Conor didn't win the Grand National

Hayes was part of a syndicate that owned the horse before it was sold to Barry Connell in 2013 for an undisclosed fee, thought to be in the region of 1 million euro, having purchased the horse in 2010 for 4,500 euro under Hayes name. Not sure how much of the profits Hayes received, but the syndicate was at least 4 people. The horses total lifetime winnings were only 168K of which approx 130K were before the sale. So when you add in training fees etc, overall profits on the horse were far from huge. Virtually all his other horses would have been losing money. I would also say that if he had proper money he didn't get it from working for bookmaking firms and anything he did get was likely lost back, as it is common knowledge on the rails at racetracks in Ireland that his accounts were losing. Besides, in my experience, almost everyone who gambles and also works for a bookmaking firm does it because they are losing gamblers. I would say it is quite possible he sold the account for the money. Very few things in the World are more expensive than the combination of losing at gambling and owning racehorses!

The possible Stinger connection is a weird one, though.

Last edited by 5=2+2; 06-23-2015 at 01:11 AM.
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06-23-2015 , 01:07 AM
Sounds super scummy to me, this multi accounting. Total silence.
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06-23-2015 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sandman201
Someone should make a new thread... get it a little more attention
No idea why someone hasn't made a thread about this, there.is pretty much no chance he isn't aware of the allegations and the lack of a response is pretty incriminating. I'm trying get my mind around the sense of entitlement to call out someone on Twitter for an offense that seems to be somewhat ambiguous while supposedly buying an account. It's 2015 and there is no moral grey area what whatsoever so what he is being accused of right now.
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06-23-2015 , 07:19 AM
i agree the silence is a bit odd. really hope brian hasn't done anything and the allegations are false! brian definitely needs to respond before the inevitable thread is made about the accusations.
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06-23-2015 , 07:40 AM
So...

Brian started posting on twitter that he was looking for action using the fantasy poker scoring system. He said he would take all bets, so i asked him if he would lay me a price on a friend of mine. I gave him the name and he responded "1.5-1". so, when i saw that, i thought it was a good line (for myself) so booked some action. If Brian was laying 1.5-1, i was thinking of betting a decent amount more (mid 5 figures). one of my friends friend (who happened to see this on twitter) contacted my friend and said something to the effect of "hey, you know who people thinks Hastings is online right? Noel Hayes". after my friend found this out i didnt book any more action because Noel seems to play pretty well in the 8g mix on stars.

Feels kinda ****ty that my friend (also horse of mine) has been playing 8g on stars with Hastings under a different user name and hastings also got a lot of action in these bracelet bets when people didnt know he was playing a ton of mix lately and was in practice. obviously i liked my side of the bet when hastings was supposedly gonna be rusty at mix games and what not, but just feels kinda scummy to me overall. (especially playing vs my horse on a dif name on stars over scoop)

i cant say for 100% certainty that hastings is on the Noel Hayes account, but seems like a ton of people know and he hasnt really denied it or anything...

Last edited by Zima421; 06-23-2015 at 07:41 AM. Reason: nothing is too good to be true i guess. glad only gonna lose a small bet!
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06-23-2015 , 08:03 AM
Didn't Joey have his best month when he was living with Hastings? Allegedly.
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06-23-2015 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Zima421
So...

Brian started posting on twitter that he was looking for action using the fantasy poker scoring system. He said he would take all bets, so i asked him if he would lay me a price on a friend of mine. I gave him the name and he responded "1.5-1". so, when i saw that, i thought it was a good line (for myself) so booked some action. If Brian was laying 1.5-1, i was thinking of betting a decent amount more (mid 5 figures). one of my friends friend (who happened to see this on twitter) contacted my friend and said something to the effect of "hey, you know who people thinks Hastings is online right? Noel Hayes". after my friend found this out i didnt book any more action because Noel seems to play pretty well in the 8g mix on stars.

Feels kinda ****ty that my friend (also horse of mine) has been playing 8g on stars with Hastings under a different user name and hastings also got a lot of action in these bracelet bets when people didnt know he was playing a ton of mix lately and was in practice. obviously i liked my side of the bet when hastings was supposedly gonna be rusty at mix games and what not, but just feels kinda scummy to me overall. (especially playing vs my horse on a dif name on stars over scoop)

i cant say for 100% certainty that hastings is on the Noel Hayes account, but seems like a ton of people know and he hasnt really denied it or anything...
This line of thinking has been expressed a couple of times in this thread. Putting aside the other obvious ethical issues if Brian was on the Noel Hayes account, I'm genuinely interested in what responsibility you think Brian had in this spot. Did you ask him what he had been playing for high stakes mixed in the last 12 months or whatever?
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06-23-2015 , 10:20 AM
The lack of traction this big (to me at least) accusation seems to get is really worrisome.
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06-23-2015 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pablito_21
The lack of traction this big (to me at least) accusation seems to get is really worrisome.
Pretty standard for people with money/friends in poker not to held accountable in the same way as someone without such assets.

Not usually NVG though, who just go after everyone
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06-23-2015 , 11:30 AM
lol love how easily Hastings is being exposed.

He's always been a scumbag. Right back from when he cheated Viktor Blom with sharing accounts/sharing HHs.

Last edited by AdamSchwartz; 06-23-2015 at 01:43 PM. Reason: personal attacks on gf
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06-23-2015 , 01:28 PM
Yikes on the new revelation regarding Pokerstars multiaccounting. A big +1 to the sketchy nature of the PLO match vs isildurr. It was very obvious at the time of that match to anyone in the HSNL realm that hastings, townsend, and cole south were sharing reads/strategy on how best to exploit isildurr, obviously specific hands were a part of this discussion, would be foolish to think otherwise. It seems very likely they had pieces of each other/sweated each other every time one of them played isildurr, not just during the one infamous 4 mill session. Some people just believe that there is nothing wrong with this. As someone who played 5/10 and 10/20 NL from 2006-2011 on FTP and never once bought HHs/shared or obtained reads from other players, I believe the lack of ethics in Hastings actions has been consistent throughout time now that a new revelation has surfaced, and IMO cannot be blamed on being a young 21 year old as Hastings loves to always mention.
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06-23-2015 , 01:53 PM
If its true, calling someone out on twitter as an angleshooter like he did is truly mindblowing
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06-23-2015 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfSwings
Didn't Joey have his best month when he was living with Hastings? Allegedly.
Yes. Also when Joey had Stinger on a podcast, Joey let it slip about his biggest ever hand (something like 60K) v Jeans and how he was about to fold but Stinger was behind him and said "you can't fold here!". Stinger immediately looked awkward and said "ok lets not talk about that." I remember it clearly.

That's a few times now that some kaka is sticking to Hastings. It's rarely by accident that these things keep happening to certain people.

I mean, if this was Harrington there would be absolute uproar.
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06-23-2015 , 01:59 PM
So guy makes millions being unethical...

not banned, not barred and seemingly respected by his peers and community alike.

Why would he be ethical. He has got away with it from day 1. And nothing really happened so why would it now.
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06-23-2015 , 02:08 PM
If he happened to be Russian he would be the biggest POS ever and a confirmed BOT

Except that is so true it's not even funny.
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06-23-2015 , 02:10 PM
I know Mercier had a big bet with him. Would be sick if Mercier was unaware he was grinding online a ton. Jason wouldn't bet if he thought he was -EV
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06-23-2015 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
I know Mercier had a big bet with him. Would be sick if Mercier was unaware he was grinding online a ton. Jason wouldn't bet if he thought he was -EV
I would doubt very much Mercier knew, especially as he played quite a bit in the same games and so would have known that "NoelHayes" was playing a lot of hands and was far from a mark. Mercier knows enough live players to give him far better action rather than taking action v a well drilled and online competitive Hastings. Pretty much certain he didn't know.

Man, the more I think about this the more seriously scummy it is.
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06-23-2015 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 5=2+2
Yes. Also when Joey had Stinger on a podcast, Joey let it slip about his biggest ever hand (something like 60K) v Jeans and how he was about to fold but Stinger was behind him and said "you can't fold here!". Stinger immediately looked awkward and said "ok lets not talk about that." I remember it clearly.

That's a few times now that some kaka is sticking to Hastings. It's rarely by accident that these things keep happening to certain people.

I mean, if this was Harrington there would be absolute uproar.
I thought there was no "one player to a hand" rule on pokerstars, has that changed?
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