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Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT* Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT*

02-26-2014 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
This is the theory of first one to sue wins?

Please explain the possible harm of waiting until gaming rules, before taking legal action?
NJGC is NOT going to dictate to Borgata where the money goes imo. and all I said was I would at least have sought legal ADVICE long ago
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
No, because you are so misguided I think you are wrong.
how am I misguided? I have only givin my opinions itt never claimed I knew anything for sure like jjjoou does. Bottom line is nobody knows a damn thing for certain. especially you and jjjoou. One thing I know for sure is how naive you are
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02-26-2014 , 11:36 PM
well, I don't have a dollar of the prize pool but at least I get my 15 minutes
http://learn.pokernews.com/news/2014...he-ca-3345.htm

BTW, they finally posted the Borgata Spring Open schedule. Event 1 is again a big guarantee with $560 buyin (I was one of those thinking there was a chance they might scrap that event as response to Chipgate)

Last edited by pninwin; 02-26-2014 at 11:52 PM.
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02-26-2014 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
well, I don't have a dollar of the prize pool but at least I get my 15 minutes
http://learn.pokernews.com/news/2014...he-ca-3345.htm
nice interview ! FWIW I am pulling for you guys to get paid, that's why I do not want a refund even tho I busted day 1c. If I am asked to join the class action I will opt out. I don't know if any fake chips were in play at my tables but even if they were I don't see how that affected my play or my busting out early. I'm sure if there is a full refund that will mean you guys get screwed and I know how I would feel if I were in your shoes. Good luck !

BTW I'm not surprised this event is scheduled in the spring open and I bet it's just as big or close. This is no big deal to Borgata, it's business as usual for them.

Last edited by Jetlag; 02-27-2014 at 12:02 AM.
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02-26-2014 , 11:52 PM
Imagine you are final 27. You hire an atty who sues borgata for your ICM value. Borg settles with you in full. Your atty gets 30%. They then announce they have decided to ICM chop it. Congrats on pissing away 30% for nothing.
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02-26-2014 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Imagine you are final 27. You hire an atty who sues borgata for your ICM value. Borg settles with you in full. Your atty gets 30%. They then announce they have decided to ICM chop it. Congrats on pissing away 30% for nothing.
lol why would you sue for ICM?
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02-27-2014 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag
NJGC is NOT going to dictate to Borgata where the money goes imo. and all I said was I would at least have sought legal ADVICE long ago

how am I misguided? I have only givin my opinions itt never claimed I knew anything for sure like jjjoou does. Bottom line is nobody knows a damn thing for certain. especially you and jjjoou. One thing I know for sure is how naive you are
I would advise you stop eating the paint chips on the windowsill, I think the paint might be lead based.
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02-27-2014 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag
lol why would you sue for ICM?
Uhhhh what do you think the current damages are for one of the 27?
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02-27-2014 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
I would advise you stop eating the paint chips on the windowsill, I think the paint might be lead based.
ok funny guy keep believing everything you read on the web
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Uhhhh what do you think the current damages are for one of the 27?
uhhhh one could easily make a case that he was screwed out of 1st place money. That is what I imagine they would claim in their suit. certainly not an ICM chop lmao. Of course they will shoot for the moon and go down from there. I don't think any lawyers would advise to sue for a chop except maybe jjjoou and LASjay's brother
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02-27-2014 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag
ok funny guy keep believing everything you read on the web


uhhhh one could easily make a case that he was screwed out of 1st place money. That is what I imagine they would claim in their suit. certainly not an ICM chop lmao. Of course they will shoot for the moon and go down from there. I don't think any lawyers would advise to sue for a chop except maybe jjjoou and LASjay's brother
there is literally no case that Borgata has damaged any of those players $372k.

I buy a raffle ticket, that is one of 10,000 sold. The prize is one million dollars. The company cancels the raffle. 0.00% chance I can win $1,000,000 in damages. Value of my ticket was $1M/10k. Same here, value of my equity at the time of the cancellation was chop value.

I am driving to the Rio on Day 1C of the WSOP Main Event, planning to late reg. You run a red light and hit me. I am unable to register for the tournament. Do you think I can recover $10M from you? After all, if you hadn't hit me I MIGHT have been able to win $10M!

PRO TIP: You don't get to recover damages that you MIGHT have MAYBE lost out on.
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02-27-2014 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag
ok funny guy keep believing everything you read on the web


uhhhh one could easily make a case that he was screwed out of 1st place money. That is what I imagine they would claim in their suit. certainly not an ICM chop lmao. Of course they will shoot for the moon and go down from there. I don't think any lawyers would advise to sue for a chop except maybe jjjoou and LASjay's brother
So every one of the remaining 27 argues they are entitled to first place money?
Lol, you must not believe eating paint chips is bad for you.
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02-27-2014 , 01:21 AM
no I don't think they are entitled to 1st place money, yes I'm saying they could ague that. there are plenty of more outrageous lawsuits than that. I'm not saying one could win but I won't be surprised if one or more of them claim it. especially the chip leader.

518 those are horrible comps and yes you can recover damages that you might have lost.
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02-27-2014 , 01:31 AM
Lawyers can face sanctions for bringing lawsuits with no valid basis. And if one sued for it a court would never award it and Borg would never settle for it so who cares?

BTW, no you absolutely cannot recover hypothetical damages. I have taken Torts at one of the 15 best law schools in the country as compared to you speaking out of your ass.

And why are my analogies no good? Didnt you cost me a chance to play the Main? If i had played it might i have won? Ship the 10M!!!!
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02-27-2014 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Lawyers can face sanctions for bringing lawsuits with no valid basis. And if one sued for it a court would never award it and Borg would never settle for it so who cares?

BTW, no you absolutely cannot recover hypothetical damages. I have taken Torts at one of the 15 best law schools in the country as compared to you speaking out of your ass.

And why are my analogies no good? Didnt you cost me a chance to play the Main? If i had played it might i have won? Ship the 10M!!!!
wow torts at one of the 15 best(lmfao)...and you still know squat, and your arguments and anologies are ******ed. you have no clue what will come of this, no one does so anyone's guess is as good as anyone else's. certainly as good as yours
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02-27-2014 , 02:05 AM
nope my guess is a lot better than yours
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02-27-2014 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag
you have no clue what will come of this, no one does so anyone's guess is as good as anyone else's. certainly as good as yours
Please tell us why your opinion on the future course of this legal dispute should be given equal consideration to BAs or the attorney in the pokernews article? What training, experience or expertise do you have in legal matters, dispute resolution or how a court calculates damages in a negligence case?

Explain why your opinion has any value here? I hope you do better job then you did pointing out all my misstatements.
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02-27-2014 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
nope my guess is a lot better than yours
haha ya cuz your just a genius. here's some advice, stop gloating/bragging about the 1 tournament you supposedly won 3 years ago and take it off your "location". Just so you know that's not what location means...poser
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02-27-2014 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
nope my guess is a lot better than yours
quoted for truth
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02-27-2014 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag
haha ya cuz your just a genius.
I always love the unintended irony of an illiterate attacking the intellect of another poster.
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02-27-2014 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Please tell us why your opinion on the future course of this legal dispute should be given equal consideration to BAs or the attorney in the pokernews article? What training, experience or expertise do you have in legal matters, dispute resolution or how a court calculates damages in a negligence case?

Explain why your opinion has any value here? I hope you do better job then you did pointing out all my misstatements.
I have no idea how it will turn out, I don't see a full refund but who knows. I have no legal backround but unlike some of you I don't claim to either.
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02-27-2014 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag
I have no idea how it will turn out, I don't see a full refund but who knows. I have no legal backround but unlike some of you I don't claim to either.
What is your background, level of education or training that leads you to argue law with BA?
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02-27-2014 , 04:25 AM
I've watched my fair share of Law & Order.. so there's that.
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02-27-2014 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlag

uhhhh one could easily make a case that he was screwed out of 1st place money. That is what I imagine they would claim in their suit. certainly not an ICM chop lmao. Of course they will shoot for the moon and go down from there. I don't think any lawyers would advise to sue for a chop except maybe jjjoou and LASjay's brother
This is a prime example of your "opinion" being wrong, worthless and misleading. You are arguing someone should sue for damages a court will not admit into evidence, allow an attorney to argue for, instruct a jury they can not award, and reduce a verdict if they do award. Its perfectly acceptable that you do not know or understand that a court can only award actual, not speculative damages, in a negligence claim. However, it is uneducated of you to believe it is a matter of opinion or that your contribution has equal value to BAs.
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02-27-2014 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
well, I don't have a dollar of the prize pool but at least I get my 15 minutes
http://learn.pokernews.com/news/2014...he-ca-3345.htm

BTW, they finally posted the Borgata Spring Open schedule. Event 1 is again a big guarantee with $560 buyin (I was one of those thinking there was a chance they might scrap that event as response to Chipgate)
Why would they scrap it? No matter what happens in this case, people are still going to gamble.
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02-27-2014 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
well, I don't have a dollar of the prize pool but at least I get my 15 minutes
http://learn.pokernews.com/news/2014...he-ca-3345.htm

BTW, they finally posted the Borgata Spring Open schedule. Event 1 is again a big guarantee with $560 buyin (I was one of those thinking there was a chance they might scrap that event as response to Chipgate)
great interview.

So sorry for what happened to you and the final 27, Can't imagine that pain.

Karma is real. You deserve and I am sure at some future tournament the poker gods will shine on you and will get your shot.

P.S. unrelated to this post but...

Non-Lawyers 0
Lawyers 1

maybe other posters should leave the tort discussions to folks that know what they are talking about.
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02-27-2014 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
great interview.

So sorry for what happened to you and the final 27, Can't imagine that pain.

Karma is real. You deserve and I am sure at some future tournament the poker gods will shine on you and will get your shot.
LOL, karma is real. Only in a dream my friend.
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