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Bill Perkins Says Poker Heroes Involved Serious Cheating. Bilzerian Spills the Beans-Post 503 Bill Perkins Says Poker Heroes Involved Serious Cheating. Bilzerian Spills the Beans-Post 503

05-24-2020 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Felt Mountain
Here's a clue, whatever big named poker hero is normally very chirpy and one you'd expect to be all over something like this, is all of a sudden a twitter mute.. probably guilty/involved in this whole thing.
yeah i dont view the "integrity" thing as a particularly big tell, but renegs sitting out a debate? someone should do a welfare check
05-24-2020 , 02:47 PM
"I want to spell the guys name right. Also do the police in the middle if an investigation tell everything. They give some info and carry on. I'm NOT the police but you get my point." - Bill Perkins

That's a pretty obvious clue.

Link: https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264622218430070786
05-24-2020 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Eponymous
He just said “the most egregious participant will be outed.”
That's not in reference to the original offender. These tweets are:



And apparently no fine. Seems like the guy got off really lightly.

05-24-2020 , 03:02 PM
Bill Perkins is human clickbait
05-24-2020 , 03:04 PM
It seems weird he is super focused on this / these 'super pro(s)' who ghosted or had accounts in a private home game club, what about the owned of the club and/or the whale who let them ghost? Unless the pro is the one running the club
05-24-2020 , 03:05 PM
If this come out that it's Daniel Negreanu doing the ghosting/account sharing then I think this situation is bigger than Postle. If nothing comes out we should all operate under the assumption that it is Negreanu, because eff that guy.

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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
so Bill thinks it's worse because more money is involved hahaha how short sighted

if you steal 1000$ from someone whose networth is 1000$ it's a lot worse than stealing 1m from someone whose networth is 400m imo

so yeah anyway, not worse than mike postle obv
Stealing 1k from someone who has 1k is not worse than stealing 1MM from someone who has 400MM. Even stealing 10k from someone whose networth is 10k isn't worse. But stealing 100k from someone with 100k is worse, imo.
05-24-2020 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
"I want to spell the guys name right. Also do the police in the middle if an investigation tell everything. They give some info and carry on. I'm NOT the police but you get my point." - Bill Perkins

That's a pretty obvious clue.

Link: https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264622218430070786


Badzioukouski? Negreanu? Polk? Which names are hard to spell?
05-24-2020 , 03:09 PM
05-24-2020 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackDegen
Strawman much? This is unrelated to whether these players should engage in or take any blame in the situation.
FWIW, in my first post I said that ghosting isn’t OK. So I am not saying that the pro shouldn’t shoulder any of the blame. What I am saying is that the player who solicits others to ghost them is the main culprit here. And that’s not even close.
05-24-2020 , 03:16 PM
We need more solvers on this
05-24-2020 , 03:19 PM
The biggest scandal so far is no mention of names

Also lol at stealing 1k is worse than stealing 1 million.
05-24-2020 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zachvac
I think people are mixing up the "it happens all the time" with "it's ok". It'd be like if he posted about the biggest scam of all time and fell for a Nigerian prince scam. It's still wrong but something you just know happens all the time and every poker player is under the assumption that there's no way to know 100% who's playing. If this is a close nit home game among friends I'd be far more pissed at the supposed friend.
This
05-24-2020 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saf
We need more solvers on this
spelling name right suggests he knows the guys sn, but not real name. maybe trueteller as jmo suggested (maybe perk is bad at google)
05-24-2020 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
If this come out that it's Daniel Negreanu doing the ghosting/account sharing then I think this situation is bigger than Postle. If nothing comes out we should all operate under the assumption that it is Negreanu, because eff that guy.



Stealing 1k from someone who has 1k is not worse than stealing 1MM from someone who has 400MM. Even stealing 10k from someone whose networth is 10k isn't worse. But stealing 100k from someone with 100k is worse, imo.
What about stealing 99k from someone who has 101k?
05-24-2020 , 03:22 PM
I'm laying 5-1 odds that it is NOT DNegs. I'm not a DNegs blind supporter, but based on everything I've seen him say/do over the past 15+ years, leads me to believe he's not the type of scum to cheat someone in 2020. Maybe 20 years ago, but I don't think he'd do it now. Just my personal opinion, which I'm willing to backup with odds.
05-24-2020 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
This
++++

I feel like I live in some Bizzaro universe. No wonder the poker players doing it don't care about doing this when it seems the community as a whole doesn't care.
05-24-2020 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
What about stealing 99k from someone who has 101k?
Given the first guys logic hed think stealing $10 from someone with $10 is worse than stealing $1M with someone with $500M
05-24-2020 , 03:24 PM
I would be insanely surprised if the name tweet actually meant spelling his name right, I interpret that as him saying he wants to lay out what the person did fully without false accusations (accuse him properly / spell the accusation of the person(s) correctly)

If he had to google a guys name and its taken 20 hrs he has other issues than being cheated at poker obv
05-24-2020 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Exactly. And then going about it the way he has just makes it even more so. What a clown.
Perkins reminds me of that kid in high school starving for attention.

The poker community is reeling from most rooms closed, lack of live tournaments for who knows how long, cash games, an embarrassing cheating scandal, etc. And then there's Perkins tweeting like this new scandal is armageddon when it doesn't even come close.

That's the problem with gambling games, people with lots of money immediately get large voices and influence. Glad he is very wealthy but his own ego overshadows whatever good he was trying to do here. And to claim this makes Postle's scandal look like a church service is buffoonery and pathetic.
05-24-2020 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerbeastsu
I'm laying 5-1 odds that it is NOT DNegs. I'm not a DNegs blind supporter, but based on everything I've seen him say/do over the past 15+ years, leads me to believe he's not the type of scum to cheat someone in 2020. Maybe 20 years ago, but I don't think he'd do it now. Just my personal opinion, which I'm willing to backup with odds.
He would have to be one of the stupidest people ever to engage in this given he is a brand all in himself. The risk/reward ratio just isn't there for him to be this stupid.
05-24-2020 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
FWIW, in my first post I said that ghosting isn’t OK. So I am not saying that the pro shouldn’t shoulder any of the blame. What I am saying is that the player who solicits others to ghost them is the main culprit here. And that’s not even close.
Would be interested to hear your reasoning on this. The "super-pro" that cheats is acting fraudulently in their own profession, and they've likely done it before. And pros should also probably be held to a higher standard not to cheat than recs/degens. You mean because the fish was apparently one of the Perkins' friends?
05-24-2020 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackDegen
He would have to be one of the stupidest people ever to engage in this given he is a brand all in himself. The risk/reward ratio just isn't there for him to be this stupid.
Completely agree.
05-24-2020 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerbeastsu
I'm laying 5-1 odds that it is NOT DNegs. I'm not a DNegs blind supporter, but based on everything I've seen him say/do over the past 15+ years, leads me to believe he's not the type of scum to cheat someone in 2020. Maybe 20 years ago, but I don't think he'd do it now. Just my personal opinion, which I'm willing to backup with odds.
I agree I doubt it's Dnegs. Isn't the guy extremely wealthy with his hands busy in multiple businesses and his name/his brand is probably the most valuable commodity in the poker world. To put everything he's worked for on the line just to scam some whales out of a couple hundred thousand in a private online game?

Also I assume DNegs is a big enough mainstream name and has many rich celebrity friends where him finding a soft high stakes game to play in isn't a problem.
05-24-2020 , 03:34 PM
05-24-2020 , 03:36 PM
in before "super pro" is JRB

      
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