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05-24-2020 , 02:46 PM

#276

vinivici9586

Breakfast?

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,679

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felt Mountain

Here's a clue, whatever big named poker hero is normally very chirpy and one you'd expect to be all over something like this, is all of a sudden a twitter mute.. probably guilty/involved in this whole thing.

yeah i dont view the "integrity" thing as a particularly big tell, but renegs sitting out a debate? someone should do a welfare check

05-24-2020 , 02:47 PM

#277

pocket_zeros

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,081

"I want to spell the guys name right. Also do the police in the middle if an investigation tell everything. They give some info and carry on. I'm NOT the police but you get my point." - Bill Perkins

That's a pretty obvious clue.

Link: https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264622218430070786

05-24-2020 , 02:53 PM

#278

editundo

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 385

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eponymous

He just said “the most egregious participant will be outed.”

That's not in reference to the original offender. These tweets are:

And apparently no fine. Seems like the guy got off really lightly.

05-24-2020 , 03:02 PM

#279

RosaParks1

adept

Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 843

Bill Perkins is human clickbait

05-24-2020 , 03:04 PM

#280

TreadLightly

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,722

It seems weird he is super focused on this / these 'super pro(s)' who ghosted or had accounts in a private home game club, what about the owned of the club and/or the whale who let them ghost? Unless the pro is the one running the club

05-24-2020 , 03:05 PM

#281

SimpleRick

banned

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 4,660

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenoblade

so Bill thinks it's worse because more money is involved hahaha how short sighted

if you steal 1000$ from someone whose networth is 1000$ it's a lot worse than stealing 1m from someone whose networth is 400m imo

so yeah anyway, not worse than mike postle obv

Stealing 1k from someone who has 1k is not worse than stealing 1MM from someone who has 400MM. Even stealing 10k from someone whose networth is 10k isn't worse. But stealing 100k from someone with 100k is worse, imo.

05-24-2020 , 03:07 PM

#282

madmansam

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,344

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocket_zeros

Badzioukouski? Negreanu? Polk? Which names are hard to spell?

05-24-2020 , 03:09 PM

#283

parisron

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,826

05-24-2020 , 03:16 PM

#284

madlex

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17,967

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJackDegen

Strawman much? This is unrelated to whether these players should engage in or take any blame in the situation.

FWIW, in my first post I said that ghosting isn’t OK. So I am not saying that the pro shouldn’t shoulder any of the blame. What I am saying is that the player who solicits others to ghost them is the main culprit here. And that’s not even close.

05-24-2020 , 03:16 PM

#285

Saf

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 146

We need more solvers on this

05-24-2020 , 03:19 PM

#286

HitInTheNuts

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 163

The biggest scandal so far is no mention of names

Also lol at stealing 1k is worse than stealing 1 million.

05-24-2020 , 03:19 PM

#287

Alpha Fish

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,007

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachvac

I think people are mixing up the "it happens all the time" with "it's ok". It'd be like if he posted about the biggest scam of all time and fell for a Nigerian prince scam. It's still wrong but something you just know happens all the time and every poker player is under the assumption that there's no way to know 100% who's playing. If this is a close nit home game among friends I'd be far more pissed at the supposed friend.

This

05-24-2020 , 03:20 PM

#288

vinivici9586

Breakfast?

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,679

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saf

We need more solvers on this

spelling name right suggests he knows the guys sn, but not real name. maybe trueteller as jmo suggested (maybe perk is bad at google)

05-24-2020 , 03:21 PM

#289

Mr Spyutastic

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 15,531

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimpleRick

If this come out that it's Daniel Negreanu doing the ghosting/account sharing then I think this situation is bigger than Postle. If nothing comes out we should all operate under the assumption that it is Negreanu, because eff that guy.

Stealing 1k from someone who has 1k is not worse than stealing 1MM from someone who has 400MM. Even stealing 10k from someone whose networth is 10k isn't worse. But stealing 100k from someone with 100k is worse, imo.

What about stealing 99k from someone who has 101k?

05-24-2020 , 03:22 PM

#290

pokerbeastsu

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 473

I'm laying 5-1 odds that it is NOT DNegs. I'm not a DNegs blind supporter, but based on everything I've seen him say/do over the past 15+ years, leads me to believe he's not the type of scum to cheat someone in 2020. Maybe 20 years ago, but I don't think he'd do it now. Just my personal opinion, which I'm willing to backup with odds.

05-24-2020 , 03:22 PM

#291

BlackJackDegen

self-banned

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 875

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha Fish

This

++++

I feel like I live in some Bizzaro universe. No wonder the poker players doing it don't care about doing this when it seems the community as a whole doesn't care.

05-24-2020 , 03:23 PM

#292

HitInTheNuts

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 163

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic

What about stealing 99k from someone who has 101k?

Given the first guys logic hed think stealing $10 from someone with $10 is worse than stealing $1M with someone with $500M

05-24-2020 , 03:24 PM

#293

TreadLightly

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,722

I would be insanely surprised if the name tweet actually meant spelling his name right, I interpret that as him saying he wants to lay out what the person did fully without false accusations (accuse him properly / spell the accusation of the person(s) correctly)

If he had to google a guys name and its taken 20 hrs he has other issues than being cheated at poker obv

05-24-2020 , 03:26 PM

#294

EastCoastBalla

banned

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 1,765

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic

Exactly. And then going about it the way he has just makes it even more so. What a clown.

Perkins reminds me of that kid in high school starving for attention.

The poker community is reeling from most rooms closed, lack of live tournaments for who knows how long, cash games, an embarrassing cheating scandal, etc. And then there's Perkins tweeting like this new scandal is armageddon when it doesn't even come close.

That's the problem with gambling games, people with lots of money immediately get large voices and influence. Glad he is very wealthy but his own ego overshadows whatever good he was trying to do here. And to claim this makes Postle's scandal look like a church service is buffoonery and pathetic.

05-24-2020 , 03:26 PM

#295

BlackJackDegen

self-banned

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 875

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerbeastsu

He would have to be one of the stupidest people ever to engage in this given he is a brand all in himself. The risk/reward ratio just isn't there for him to be this stupid.

05-24-2020 , 03:27 PM

#296

editundo

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 385

Quote:

Originally Posted by madlex

Would be interested to hear your reasoning on this. The "super-pro" that cheats is acting fraudulently in their own profession, and they've likely done it before. And pros should also probably be held to a higher standard not to cheat than recs/degens. You mean because the fish was apparently one of the Perkins' friends?

05-24-2020 , 03:33 PM

#297

pokerbeastsu

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 473

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJackDegen

He would have to be one of the stupidest people ever to engage in this given he is a brand all in himself. The risk/reward ratio just isn't there for him to be this stupid.

Completely agree.

05-24-2020 , 03:34 PM

#298

Felt Mountain

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 591

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerbeastsu

I agree I doubt it's Dnegs. Isn't the guy extremely wealthy with his hands busy in multiple businesses and his name/his brand is probably the most valuable commodity in the poker world. To put everything he's worked for on the line just to scam some whales out of a couple hundred thousand in a private online game?

Also I assume DNegs is a big enough mainstream name and has many rich celebrity friends where him finding a soft high stakes game to play in isn't a problem.