we can't download that client...so how do we get account info and records?

I believe you need the .COM client, not the .NET. Mine upgraded automatically from the old .COM but if you don't have that around, you'll need to get it. There was a thread on the issue recently in NVG with reputable sources for the old .COM.

Thanks...that worked for me too.

What are us players doing with their ftps? I read that they will expire if unused. It seems unless you moved out of the us, you're screwed.

Where did you read this.

Links to the .com client here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2801

This was taken from the full tilt points page of the site

Please note: if you do not log in to your Full Tilt Poker account for two consecutive years, your Full Tilt Points balance may expire.

So, if successful legislation doesn't get passed within 2 years (from today? from Black Friday?) you lose all your FTPs which I know has quite a bit of value for some people.

These points did not have any kind of play through requirements to redeem when they were earned, why should they now?

What's stopping you from logging into your account?

I'm not sure if they mean that literally where all you have to do is login and you're OK. Even if that were true, it's ridiculous to expect people to play 100s of hours of poker after not having to play for a couple of years.

Yeah, I wasn't questioning if what Jonas said was true, it was more of FTP had been saying the exact opposite of what he got PM'ed for a long time. And they made no mention of any distinction between US players are ROW players... Now it seems US players are just in general ****ed if we had a pending withdraw...


I would really love if Diamondflush could shed light on this, as she clearly had/has a insider(s) willing to talk to her, as she once said she thought all these transactions got put back into our accounts long ago. Beyond that in an FTP answers thread before FTP went fully under FTPDoug said that Ironman/Academy credits had been converted to FTP's a bit ago too, again with no mention of whether or not it was just ROW or ROW and US players. It would be really gross if they leave US players flailing in the wind here...


Also I emailed FTP asking how to attain one's account history just before someone itt told me it had to be through the "Get Account History (web)" thing in the FTP client, which I DL'ed the client through the old Cnet DL and then updated so it would work, here is that email with their response:

This is a lie, as I was able to get a full spreadsheet of my playing history through the client as others here have reported, which is still short a withdraw that I made at ~12:00 AM on BF, a bit before **** went down. Whether or not this is a full accounting of my account which was presumably sent off to the DOJ or not is obv to be seen, but if it is the DOJ would think I have far less in my account than I really do which is why what RBK said scares me.

As I posted in other threads, I'm also in the same boat. Also missing the return of some points for a $5k bonus which I had purchased.

Problem is that FTP has no interest in getting it fixed.

My email to FTP support got a canned response that I should be talking to the DOJ and any issues pertaining to USA players is outside of FTP supports hands.

I love FTP's response of "Talk to the DOJ" like they're easy to contact and talk to about this issue. This is almost getting funny.

Got my transaction history and everything seems to be in order and my balance is correct.

Also have 586,000 points which are now useless.

I believe it was .com.... also I got a response about my limbo funds:

Unfortunately we cannot provide your previous Full Tilt Poker balance or any information on previous deposits or withdrawals, as customers within the United States are required to go through a remission process administered by the US Department of Justice for access to balance or funds.
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I'm thinking.. wtf are you talking about.. you provided me with 40k lines of my account history. You just have a bunch of withdrawals at the end that were never paid and never credited back. How the **** is the doj suppose to know how much money I'm owed if you don't tell them!?!?

Hopefully when the PPA meets with the DOJ at some point this month all this is brought up...

They can tell the DOJ. They just can't tell YOU.

It sucks, but that's the situation. So don't give up hope quite yet.

I also have the same problem. 0 of my iron man medals were converted into points which should amount to 850,000.

I have received 2 emails back from support about this issue. The first one was a .xls file of my point balance up until BF which showed absolutely nothing as far as iron man conversions go, but was enogh for support to state that my point balance was "clearly accurate". The second email only stated that all iron man conversions were completed through June 2011.

FTP support not understanding this issue or understanding it and continuing to ignore it is a big, big problem. I can't even imagine the frustration of players who had limbo funds.

On another note, I downloaded my FTP account history successfully and it seemed to be 100% accurate. It also only took literally 60 seconds to generate the 800 day file after I requested it.

I can't find the place that shows me how many iron man medals I had.

To my knowledge, there isn't one.

I don't think there's any way to see this now, although I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure I had around 200,000 points worth of medals, but I don't know of any way to check this. I have a screen-shot of my cashier that shows everything else, for all the good it will do me.

Please stop. This company was a ponzi scheme, and you are the luckiest people on earth to even have FALSE HOPE that you will get anything back. Be thankful that you can dream about getting what you think you are getting.

What is absolutely stunning is this constant chatter about Iron Man crap and Full Tilt points ....blah blah blah. You are dreaming, and this is desperate talk. In a fair and just world, and in the world where normal businesses go under for any reason at all, you are lucky to get anything at all back.

Be happy that you have been able to dream about your money for 20 months. Still not a single penny paid to United States players, still not a single penny paid back from Insiders or Full Tilt pros who offered guarantees, still not a single penny paid back from Barry G from the 400K "loan" he got, the likes of which, if it was a normal business in the real world, the person who transferred him the money would be charged with embezzlement, and Barry G would likely be facing charges as well.

Stop talking about things that have ZERO chance of happening. This is desperate talk when you talk about converting points to dollars. You have a better chance of jumping away from your own shadow, or running into yourself at the mall. These are things that are impossible, and converting points dollars is fantasy land material.

You don't know how fortunate many of you are. Howard "Dumb Gums" Lederer and insiders like Phil Gordon, Chris Ferguson, Phil Ivey, Erick Lingren, and others are none too pleased that the gravy train has ended. Be thankful that they don't spit in your faces every chance they get.

Oh hey that guy's still posting.

This is perhaps the most idiotic post I've ever seen on any forum, anywhere. Our society is filled with jobs that don't "advance society", from thieving bankers to thieving politicians to the millions of government jackasses who exist only to tap your phones and search you at checkpoints.

No doubt you are employed in one of these positions, another little Eichman making sure the oligarchs are efficiently extracting productivity from workers. Rest assured that you are worthless, and you add nothing to society. In addition, your extreme bitterness towards poker players signals your clear inability to play poker successfully - no doubt a sign of your stunted intellect.

Personally, I like reading potleemit's posts. It's like, "I might have had 25% of my net worth stolen by schmucks who are still walking around like nothing happened, and I might never get my money back because of the stupidity of my government, but, hey, at least I'm not that guy."