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06-14-2013 , 01:24 AM
its funny all the 20 somethings on here that live with like 5 of their friends in a 2k sq ft house and think its crazy 10k/mo in expenses....reality will set in soon boys!
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06-14-2013 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dzikijohnny
Yo, you need to check out some frugal living books. Starting with shoot your dog and have him mounted. One time charge of $300.
I would say get your food bill down. What are you a bodybuilder? Eat out once a week tops and make your food when going out. You will probably drop 10 pounds too as most restaurant food is rich and sodium laden.
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06-14-2013 , 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ThePressure
UK is just a bit dreary and getting worse and worse, although 10k translates to about 6.5k which is plenty for almost anyone id say.

Problem is you are permanently renting, ideally you want to be buying, but wont be able to get a mortgage.
Not true outside the citys.

I live in Devon which is rural and beautiful has great schools friendly people, great beaches and country side.

The 5 bedroom house I live in is worth £150k.
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06-15-2013 , 03:55 AM
SWITZERLAND!!! It has the highest living standards in the world, you can access any online room you might want to play in. I moved in Zurich a few years ago and seriously no other place on earth can even compete. Only problem : good luck with the immigration process.
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06-15-2013 , 04:05 AM
I would recommend starting with where does your family want to live? Give them options. Also, I give you a ton of credit for your graph. No one really said anything, but were more than willing to tear you apart when you didn't produce one. You need to have a comfortable grinding environment. When you think about variables, it is impossible for you to have a consistent win rate regardless of country. Family also comes 1st. Mama might not like Phuket.
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06-15-2013 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Omahaha
Not true outside the citys.

I live in Devon which is rural and beautiful has great schools friendly people, great beaches and country side.

The 5 bedroom house I live in is worth £150k.
I temporarily live in a village in Suffolk , very picturesque but very boring and that's where you lose out over being near a nice city
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06-15-2013 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
Fwiw Lozen I'm not the OP, so we're having our first kid in Jan but no childcare expenses. Were 26/27 life insurance policies are 1M/500k. Im american and she has French/swiss/us citizenship so can stay in US however long we want and have student and work visas for Canada currently (well we will in 3 days). I guess food is our main expense that's v high so I'll probably start tracking what we spend on it a bit more closely although my approach has always been to just focus on making more rather than saving more but I guess a good focus on both is ideal

The big question is will you be bale to give up Vancouver? If not what are the things about Vancouver you cant give up?

http://www.moneysense.ca/2012/03/20/...-to-live-2012/
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06-15-2013 , 12:32 PM
a friend of mine was considering moving to Czech Republic (Prague to be exact) to play poker proffesionally and i think it's a great idea. You have tax free, legal online poker, low living expenses (higher than in most eastern-mid europe countries, but still low compared to western europe), many casinos with pretty big live games (from what i hear), great local cuisine, nice people and interesting, historical places to see.
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06-15-2013 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePressure
I temporarily live in a village in Suffolk , very picturesque but very boring and that's where you lose out over being near a nice city
Well it depends on what you enjoy doing. I have a young family so its pretty perfect for me with great schools, beaches and outdoor activities.

Plus its only 40 minutes in to Exeter which is a lovely city.

Pubs are not bad either.
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06-15-2013 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
a friend of mine was considering moving to Czech Republic (Prague to be exact) to play poker proffesionally and i think it's a great idea. You have tax free, legal online poker, low living expenses (higher than in most eastern-mid europe countries, but still low compared to western europe), many casinos with pretty big live games (from what i hear), great local cuisine, nice people and interesting, historical places to see.
If you aren't an EU citizen its not tax free but so far its very low tax for me (but that might go up in the future, not sure yet). Visas for wife and kids would also be a big hassle but not impossible. Also the weather and indoor smoking suck. I haven't played a live game here yet without getting tons of 2nd hand cancer. Other than that everything you said is correct.
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06-21-2013 , 08:41 PM
Still getting your dog stuffed is +ev. They don't **** on the rugs.
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06-22-2013 , 12:57 AM
But how long can you stay in another country for seems to be the real question? I don't see too many countries giving you a chance to stay there if your occupation is online poker.
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06-22-2013 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SNGplayer24
its funny all the 20 somethings on here that live with like 5 of their friends in a 2k sq ft house and think its crazy 10k/mo in expenses....reality will set in soon boys!
10k a month in expenses is living lavishly. Even with kids, to be expected to make 120k a year to just get by is absolutely absurd my friend
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06-22-2013 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
It was like 1900 mortgage / 900 prop tax.
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I went in low its actually 1800/1k I asked wife. We live in gated community here in Steiner Ranch (Travis County). V high prop taxes v low house prices (440k for 5BR/4BA, 3800 sqft). Also no state income tax, but Yea its def 1k/mo for us ;(. House closes on 28th tho so no more of that
This is a bit of a sidetrack, but I've got to make sure I'm understanding this. $1,000/month for property tax???

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Originally Posted by useless
It's not the housing that kills people in BC it's the price of everything else. Gas/Food/Booze/Entertainment is all so much higher in BC than other provinces in this country.
If true, this isn't something I was aware of, and I can't see why it would be the case. Sadly, almost all of our travel outside of BC is down to the US, so I don't know either way, but I'd be pretty surprised to hear that day-to-day living expenses other than housing were a lot more here than other places in Canada. Unless you meant going out for food - I guess I could believe that restaurants are expensive here, and I know that gas and liquor taxes are high. But if groceries and general household needs are a lot more here, I wasn't aware of that.

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most things on the list are too vague to critique, but the fact that you pay 200/month for cable and 250/month for 2 cell phones makes me think you're probably overspending on a lot of things.
Yeah, I had the same thought. I've got digital cable with everything but movie channels and sports subscriptions, and I'm under $100/month. I guess things like Sunday Ticket and Centre Ice packages could drive it up, but still, wow. And $125 per cell phone? Yikes!

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Originally Posted by oakley77
10k a month in expenses is living lavishly. Even with kids, to be expected to make 120k a year to just get by is absolutely absurd my friend
I don't think anyone is claiming to "just get by"; the lifestyles I'm hearing described are definitely middle class, but not what I'd call lavish.
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06-22-2013 , 03:28 AM
Yes correct, Austin prop taxes are v high and our county/gated community were among the even higher end. Tradeoff is no state income taxes
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06-22-2013 , 04:07 AM
Yeah, I guess things are done quite differently in the US. Property taxes couldn't replace provincial income taxes here, since they go to the municipal government.

Sounds like that gives renters a big advantage over homeowners there versus the way we do it here.
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06-22-2013 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 13deadprohets
NOT EVEN CLOSE, MORE RAPES in India EVERY day then ANYWHERE else in world BS the TRUTH gets deleted
I assume u have never stepped in India rite. For generations we have lived here and no one that i know personally has been raped. As for news etc give me the name of one country and i will find you a reason why you should not live there.

Guys don't give into conspiracy theory come and stay here for a month or 2 to see things for yourself.
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06-22-2013 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SNGplayer24
its funny all the 20 somethings on here that live with like 5 of their friends in a 2k sq ft house and think its crazy 10k/mo in expenses....reality will set in soon boys!
No way 10k months are standard. How in hell could it be, check avg salaries. look up an economic advisor to look over you expenses OP, you're getting raped/being far from optimal somewhere/everywhere.
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06-22-2013 , 10:54 AM
OP - it's been said a few times, but I'll reinforce it - you're living in the right country for your question, but seems like either the city you're in (or the way you're living in it) is too expensive...

~120k per year is plenty to live pretty comfortably all around the country. You have the luxury of not needing to live anywhere specific for work, so move somewhere close to the amenities you like, but not on top of them...

If you need to be in a big city, move out of the actual city and save a bundle... If you don't need to be in a "big" city, move to a smaller one. If BC is important to you, move to Gibson's or somewhere similar. If province is not important, look out east - you can live like a king for $120k / year in St. John's, for example.

In short, this isn't a problem of "I only make $1500 / month - where can I live?" You have too many choices of where to live based on your situation.

OT
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06-22-2013 , 11:43 AM
Costa Rica? Close to home, "flexible" gaming laws, awesome weather? Man on $8-10k you can live in Costa Rica like the president!
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06-22-2013 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jigga_man
Thx for all the suggestions Bobo, I grew up in BC so im familar with all the cities you talk about. Okanagan is really nice. My thoughts were since all I need is a stable internet connection and legalized online poker why I am living in a place with high taxes, cost of living and bloated gas bag of a RE market? Why not move somewhere that I can pay cash for a house and save a bunch of money month-to-month. I know where the cheap places are ie. mexico, thailand but I need to think about a good place to raise the family as well as cheapness.
Have you taken a look at the Sunshine Coast of BC? Safe affordable West Coast living.

And $100,000 a year before tax for family with two kids would get you by reasonably comfortably but there would not be a lot of extras.

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06-22-2013 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by babaz
SWITZERLAND!!! It has the highest living standards in the world, you can access any online room you might want to play in. I moved in Zurich a few years ago and seriously no other place on earth can even compete. Only problem : good luck with the immigration process.
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Im swiss from Lausanne and to be honest, i would rather suggest Thailand or something warmer and cheaper!
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06-22-2013 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by infusion_leo
I assume u have never stepped in India rite. For generations we have lived here and no one that i know personally has been raped. As for news etc give me the name of one country and i will find you a reason why you should not live there.

Guys don't give into conspiracy theory come and stay here for a month or 2 to see things for yourself.
Think of how many people you know then compare it to the population of India.
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06-22-2013 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Yeah, I guess things are done quite differently in the US. Property taxes couldn't replace provincial income taxes here, since they go to the municipal government.

Sounds like that gives renters a big advantage over homeowners there versus the way we do it here.
No, it doesn't. Homeowners can deduct the interest on mortgage payments from federal taxes. We bought a home 2.5 years ago and each year the deduction washes the property tax (and we're in CA, pretty high taxes). Interest is top heavy in 20/30 yr mortgages so the deduction is lower over time. However towards the end of the mortgage you are likely to have had an increase in property value, giving you a return on your house purchase. Rent for 20 years and you walk away with nothing when you're done.
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01-16-2020 , 02:43 AM
What is it now with the new tax laws. Are the deductions for homeowners the same as the old tax laws???
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