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The behavior of the players in big online tournaments (WCOOP Main Event) The behavior of the players in big online tournaments (WCOOP Main Event)

09-29-2015 , 11:31 PM
Watching JCarver or yourself play is 100x more interesting for your gf than an online final table with no holecards/commentary.

Not sure what you don't understand.
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09-29-2015 , 11:38 PM
I agree with the OP if he is talking about Barry greenstein in the chat.

If he is talking about the new God Coenaldinho7 I hope your girlfriend sleeps with your best friend.
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09-29-2015 , 11:48 PM
I do not understand why even discuss about whom and why I showed this tournament. What does it matter?

Imagine that someone installs the software and want to deposit the money. But before that he opens the WCOOP Main Event and sees rude behavior at the table and the lack of reaction from the support. He concludes he does not want to spend free time in unpleasant company. He gives up and goes instead to buy a game on Steam.

Now you see the problem?
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09-29-2015 , 11:57 PM
I guess you missed it when barryg said it twice that play will resume in a moment as 1 player does not agree to a deal?
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09-30-2015 , 12:01 AM
I agree with the OP as well. I am recently married. My wife accepts me playing cards and I have gradually shown her how it works. That's all he was trying to do..take another step showing her something he loves. Barry definitely was trying to have fun and I don't think he meant any harm. I have noticed a similar approach by other pro hosts. I will say that the player that won the whole thing was talking quite a bit. If I was at the FT, I would try to act like it didn't bother me. I would probably mute him at some point. The other player HU was clearly better and he had a right to not take a deal. In the end, it cost him at least $200,000. I also don't think that Stars is going to get new players from watching the FT. It was a lot of fun to watch, but not for someone new. That being said, a harassing or negative attitude only hurt the game. If you are above average at cards, it's your duty to make those below average to have a good time. If you don't agree, you are not realizing your expectation.
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09-30-2015 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by subfocused
If you are above average at cards, it's your duty to make those below average to have a good time. If you don't agree, you are not realizing your expectation.
the player "harassing" was not above average at cards. Probably in the bottom 10% of the tournament.
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09-30-2015 , 12:07 AM
I'm surprised nobody has come in and tried to blame this on HUDs and other third party poker software yet.
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09-30-2015 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by lukkkrr
I invited my gf to watch with me. I wanted to show her my hobby and how I spend most of my free time.
So you wanted to show your gf an online poker tournament that explains all the time you're not spending with her, hmmm, I'm surprised after the first orbit you didn't hear the front door slam on her way out.....lol
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09-30-2015 , 12:08 AM
Wonder what McEnroe would of done to him and his girlfriend.
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09-30-2015 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
the player "harassing" was not above average at cards. Probably in the bottom 10% of the tournament.
Agree. Everyone was glad to have that player in the tournament and should not say anything to keep him from wanting to come back, including the host.
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09-30-2015 , 12:14 AM
pretty sure op made up the gf
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09-30-2015 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lukkkrr
I do not understand why even discuss about whom and why I showed this tournament. What does it matter?
Because that is what your OP is about?

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Now you see the problem?
Yes, OP. Unfortunately you do not seem to see the same thing as 98% of the posters in this thread. You asked for peoples opinions then tell the majority their issue is their boring personalities when you are the one spending date night with the girlfriend watching a online poker tournament final table you have no stake in whatsoever with someone who doesn't even like poker. I bet she thinks your personality is just amazing. Cause I do
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09-30-2015 , 12:25 AM
I think OP got us all good, I'm onto him. That or he takes railing tournies way too seriously. After all, it's how he spends "most of his free time."
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09-30-2015 , 12:39 AM
i think the worst behavior of anyone, was barryG. wtf is he even still doing repping stars? working off his FTP debt?
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09-30-2015 , 12:41 AM
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Because that is what your OP is about?
So you're saying that if instead of "gf" I wrote "a person of indeterminate gender that I have an unspecified relationship with", the whole thread would make no sense?
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09-30-2015 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lukkkrr
So you're saying that if instead of "gf" I wrote "a person of indeterminate gender that I have an unspecified relationship with", the whole thread would make no sense?
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09-30-2015 , 12:52 AM
Btw OP, welcome to 2+2.
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09-30-2015 , 12:52 AM
What is considered harassment here? The silver star asking for a chop the whole final table (which i thought was hilarious + he had a lot of fun banter throughout / enjoyed it as opposed to remaining completely silent and just grinding the tournament)

I would find it more boring if every player refused to talk all final table and we had to listen to Barryg's awkward humour ?
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09-30-2015 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lukkkrr
So you're saying that if instead of "gf" I wrote "a person of indeterminate gender that I have an unspecified relationship with", the whole thread would make no sense?
I'm at the point now where I'm saying you make no sense. And that question pretty much clinches it imo.

You were unhappy with the way I phrased my response to begin with. Maybe rightly so. I have expanded and explained further as have many others in this thread and you do not seem to listen. Just rehash the same question over and over again and add nonsensical questions or comparisons that bear no merit.

You're whole standpoint is way off and that is confirmed by the responses in this thread.

By the looks of it if you had posted I think Barry Greenstein is a bit of a goose you may have got some positive replies.

Saying that the behaviour of the final table is hurting poker and stopping new people getting involved in the game is just................

Using the scenario that this came about cause you were embarassed in front of your "gf" after inviting her to watch it with you when she has no interest in or clue about poker is just LOL. I also cannot believe you cannot comprehend this.

You don't seem to be able to grasp that this is not how new people in general enter the game of poker nor what online tournament final tables are for and at this stage I don't think any amount of explanation is going to get that through to you unfortunately.

Maybe go buy a game on steam and carry on with life. You're gf may enjoy watching someone else play that online.

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09-30-2015 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by The Lipo Fund
i think the worst behavior of anyone, was barryG. wtf is he even still doing repping stars? working off his FTP debt?
Nothing against Barry I think he has done a lot of positive things for the game but I have often wondered the same thing. Some of the people stars have dropped in recent years surely serve more from a marketing standpoint than Barry, I'm not sure exactly what he offers these days.

Did he get a long term deal to begin with? What would make them keep signing him?

Are his sponsorship fees indeed being used for that purpose?

In Barry's defense he was one of the first players to come out and say he would repay his FTP loans and did not make any excuses. That said I'm not sure if this ever occured
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09-30-2015 , 01:30 AM
I feel like this:

Me: Hi folks. Today I was with my grandmother on the bus and we saw Obama on pterodactyl fighting a giant mechanical matryoshka led by Putin.

Random Comment 1: You should take a taxi. Your granny deserves better than a bus.

Random Comment 2: If I were your grandmother, I would tell you "buy a car or gtfo"

Random Comment 3: pretty sure the op made up the grandma
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09-30-2015 , 01:31 AM
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What is considered harassment here?
I would define it here as:
repeated and unjustified describing the decision of another player as something wrong what he should not do and demanding the change

Imagine that for 3 hours stranger guy constantly asks you to give him money and says to all who listen that you should give it to him. It sounds like harassment, right?
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09-30-2015 , 01:42 AM
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If someone is not sure what I wanted to describe in this topic, PasswordGotHacked gave a great example.

Being malicious to others "because I can". As if anonymity justify rude behavior.

Let's ignore the subject. It is better to choose a irrelevant detail referring to the author and then by the complete omission of logic to use it to ridicule this man. Because the real winners take their women out 7 times a week, especially on Tuesday nights, and never, literally never share their passions with them.
Sensitive much? I think we know who wears the pants in your relationship.
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09-30-2015 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lukkkrr
I would define it here as:
repeated and unjustified describing the decision of another player as something wrong what he should not do and demanding the change

Imagine that for 3 hours stranger guy constantly asks you to give him money and says to all who listen that you should give it to him. It sounds like harassment, right?
unjustied, i am not sure if you know something about dealmaking you would not cal it that i think.
your second part makes no sense, people can turn the chat off in few clicks.
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09-30-2015 , 02:04 AM
I didn't see the final table being discussed and from what I skimmed above I'm not sure what happened. Has it actually been established that anyone was even rude at the final table? I haven't seen any of the chat.
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