Barbara Enright refuses a chop to pay the bubble - Page 18 - Poker News

It was a $70 buy in, which is going to be 90% recreational players and she isn't anywhere close to holding the chip lead. The amount of ev lost in $ is beyond inconsequential. What is meaningful is her likely pushing players away from poker.

+1 pushing rec casual players away and upsetting a positive experience was not a great thing for the game as a whole. Just because you have the right to do it why be so petty that it may cost players in the long run. Pros want more fish in the games but moves like this drive them away .

06-28-2013 , 05:08 PM

#428

MauiPunter

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Originally Posted by champstone

Will beginners enjoy a game where you can change the rules of the game before its over or would they rather play a game where its understood what the payouts are before hand? Why not change the payouts to less people rather than more before the tournament is over. Its basically the same things. People should get equally pissed.

When I won the Venetian Deep Stack I got ridiculous pressure to chop when we made final table and I was chip leader. I told them that if they wanted to chop then they can give me #1 money and they can all chip in to the chop since they wanted it so badly.

I hate the chop. Hate it!

06-28-2013 , 07:10 PM

#429

champstone

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Originally Posted by MauiPunter

I understand the right but we are talking such a small amount its her right , to me the rule should be no chops ever that would be fine by me and we would not have this problem. im just thinking in that spot , not a Enright hater its her right, but for 165$ it seems petty but then again why is there even a chance for a 28th place pay. casinos fault not enrights to me blame casino for it, to me the casino put her in a bad spot fwiw. but I would have agreed but blamed casino after the fact for it

Last edited by champstone; 06-28-2013 at 07:18 PM.

06-28-2013 , 07:22 PM

#430

NickMPK

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Originally Posted by MauiPunter

If everyone else is more eager to chop than you are, you can leverage this into getting a much better deal than you deserve based on the chip counts. You are missing out on a lot of EV if you refuse to chop regardless of the circumstances.

06-28-2013 , 07:28 PM

#431

champstone

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Originally Posted by NickMPK

only ft should there be chops we are talking 28th bubble if casinos go for this it puts 1 hold out under stress which to me is unfair stress if that person is known the vote should be secret if you allow it.

06-28-2013 , 07:58 PM

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idun215

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The only time i agree to a chop is when its my best interest to chop. When the blinds are too high to be playable or if the difference in money is a significant amount. But im not gonna chop just to pay the double.

06-28-2013 , 09:32 PM

#433

g00t4life

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if you want to chop, stay home and make salads

06-29-2013 , 12:26 AM

#434

Richard88

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so who is Barbara Enright?

06-29-2013 , 01:36 AM

#435

NickyC

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Pardon me interrupting this thread, but can someone explain something to me please? I haven't been to NVG in well over a year, and shockingly, most of the top threads were around the last time I was here. Slow year in poker news?

06-29-2013 , 01:44 AM

#436

Bobo Fett

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

In what ****ing world

Earth. What world are you from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker_Hall_of_Fame

06-29-2013 , 01:45 AM

#437

BT2

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let's give a trophy to everyone so nobody feels bad

06-29-2013 , 05:45 AM

#438

hopesolo9

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OP bubbled

06-29-2013 , 07:54 AM

#439

2cardstud93

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if u play a $70 donkament for 8 hrs you do, in fact, deserve nothing

06-29-2013 , 01:09 PM

#440

BiiiiigChips

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Originally Posted by eobmtns

How about a secret ballot for chops. Remaining players get one red and one black card, and vote by throwing in a card face down. Anybody throws in a black card, shuffle up and deal.

This should become the universal way to do it.

06-29-2013 , 01:39 PM

#441

hopesolo9

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Originally Posted by BiiiiigChips

This should become the universal way to do it.

lolmemories....

Last edited by hopesolo9; 06-29-2013 at 01:39 PM. Reason: your avatar was my highschool teacher

07-01-2013 , 01:30 AM

#442

shoeshinebox

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i got paid as the bubble boy more'n once... was glad of it.

i refuse all talk of chops when it is not to my benefit.

i once pleaded w/a lady ,declaring i needed the $ for my childs groceries and i was playing with the $,please o please i beg her and got the 90

07-01-2013 , 11:25 AM

#443

PardoG

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it's like chopping in cash games- look at your cards first then make the decision

if you are about to blind out -pay the bubble (yourself) otherwise fold to the $$!

duh

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