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03-08-2011 , 03:32 AM

Al Capwne

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The WSOP has a 10 game event this year and it includes BADUGI. Little weird to me as badugi isn't really a poker game. They also don't have a straight up badugi event. Was it only approved by the NGC as part of the mix?
Why don't they just make it a 5 card game with a low kicker? Would still be fun and would be pokerz...
I think they should've just made the 10th game 5 card draw.

Last edited by Al Capwne; 03-08-2011 at 03:39 AM.

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03-08-2011 , 03:40 AM

2J4U

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If they can have a chinese poker event, they can put badugi in a mix.

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03-08-2011 , 03:54 AM

Traps

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Badugi is more popular than 5 card draw and is played in a lot of poker rooms. If they're only going to have one, badugi is the better choice.

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03-08-2011 , 03:59 AM

Sonny Weblin

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I dunno, badugi has all the elements of poker other than having different hand rankings. I don't see why you think badugi isn't poker.

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03-08-2011 , 04:03 AM

gobbo

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I tried to make it ba-deucey.

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03-08-2011 , 04:06 AM

Al Capwne

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Originally Posted by Sonny Weblin

I dunno, badugi has all the elements of poker other than having different hand rankings. I don't see why you think badugi isn't poker.

Because it's not a 5 card game?

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I tried to make it ba-deucey.

Care to elaborate on the rules?

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03-08-2011 , 06:51 AM

The Syntax

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Originally Posted by gobbo

I tried to make it ba-deucey.

Thanks for trying that would have been awesome.

OP,

Badugi has all the qualities of a legitimate poker game. That you don't make a five-card hand is not important.

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03-08-2011 , 06:58 AM

madlex

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Originally Posted by Al Capwne

Because it's not a 5 card game?

Where is poker defined as a 5 card game?

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03-08-2011 , 07:02 AM

The Syntax

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Originally Posted by Al Capwne

Care to elaborate on the rules?

Baducey is a five card triple draw slit pot game where the best five card 2-7 hand wins half the pot, and the best badugi (using any combination of your five cards) wins the other half of the pot.

If you are playing in the US it is common for the badugi rules to be changed slightly so that an Ace plays high for the badugi half as well as high for the 2-7 half. So with these rules if you hold 2c-3d-4h-5s-7d you have nut/nut.

In Knights Bridge Baducey, the badugi hand rankings are unmodified, so an Ace plays low for the badugi half of the pot, and high for the 2-7 half. So, it is impossible to have nut/nut in Knights Bridge.

Last edited by The Syntax; 03-08-2011 at 07:09 AM.

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03-08-2011 , 09:39 AM

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David123

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google poker, proceed with facepalming.

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03-08-2011 , 11:40 AM

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sapol

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Originally Posted by Al Capwne

Why do you say Badugi isn't a poker game?

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03-08-2011 , 12:55 PM

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DesertCat

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Thank god they are adding more draw games.

Daniel can weigh in, but it looks like the WSOP will add even more in 2012.

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03-08-2011 , 02:07 PM

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APokerJoker2

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Cards, betting, hand rankings, bluffing......No, no, not a poker game

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03-08-2011 , 02:34 PM

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avaholic

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Originally Posted by APokerJoker2

Cards, betting, hand rankings, bluffing......No, no, not a poker game

Yeah, but they don't show it on tv and we don't get to see our poker heroes play it. Therefore, it must not be real.

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03-08-2011 , 02:38 PM

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JackRandall

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Is it classified as a poker game by the NGC though? I recall seeing footage of Greg Raymer playing a live cash game at the WSOP and they asked what he was playing and he sort of rolled his eyes a bit and said something like "um, it's er.. 4 card triple draw, lets just call it that" and then there were a few giggles.

Seems like a poker game to me though, albeit a dreadful one with a frustration level possibly exceeding even razz. Badeucey sounds like a great game (never played it).

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03-08-2011 , 03:19 PM

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banonlinepoker

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Badugi is poker.

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03-08-2011 , 08:17 PM

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espo72

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Next year they should have a LO-Only mixed event....

Badugi, Baduci, Badacey, Razz, and Razz-dugi.

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03-08-2011 , 08:22 PM

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JackRandall

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Is badacey like baducy but with A-5 rankings and razzdugi like razz for half the pot and the other half to the best badugi?

I don't think the auto correct function in my phone has ever had so much trouble with one post btw!

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03-08-2011 , 08:22 PM

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jinzerd

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lol and people say poker is dying. nlhe might be but poker never will as long as theres threads like this

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03-08-2011 , 10:22 PM

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Morris King

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Originally Posted by Sonny Weblin

I dunno, badugi has all the elements of poker other than having different hand rankings. I don't see why you think badugi isn't poker.

I don't think it's poker because it has different hand rankings.

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Next year they should have a LO-Only mixed event....

Badugi, Baduci, Badacey, Razz, and Razz-dugi.

& Limit Hold'em Lo Only imo

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03-08-2011 , 10:40 PM

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Minotawrrr

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in before badugi play money cyber sex

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03-08-2011 , 11:20 PM

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Jamie Platinum

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I would like to think that the two are mutually exclusive to consider myself a well rounded poker player but the mob squad has spoken!

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03-09-2011 , 01:07 AM

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Al Capwne

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TX, Syntax! Sounds like fun.
Sorry, I was under the impression that NV, CA, CT, NJ, etc. had trouble licensing/spreading the game for the exact reason that it wasn't a 5 card game. I guess I was wrong?
I mean, is there another poker game that doesn't require 5 cards at showdown? (you consider Chinese poker, poker?) I don't...

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03-09-2011 , 01:36 AM

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Conz

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JRB is gonna win a bracelet! ... and then melt it down when he goes busto for the 982nd time this year

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03-09-2011 , 02:21 AM

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Jeffage

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Originally Posted by Al Capwne

Badugi is allowed as a cash game in Vegas. I've played it at Wynn, seen it spread as part of mixes at Bellagio and Rio during the WSOP. So I don't think it's an issue there. It's also allowed in Delaware Park at least on the East Coast (not AC yet).

Jeff

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