honestly id guess thats unlikely

Very dismissive tone ya got there. Leon has access to and is invited to play on the apps with all the biggest and juiciest private games. Losses back is common practice to whales on these apps. To think that Leon is paying anything here is naive when he has access to limitless wherever and whenever he would want to play him for whatever stakes he wants. He plays on gg because he has financial incentive to do so, limitless plays on gg because he doesn’t have the privilege Leon has. Back in your court

so they got %95 rakeback but how its work pvi for leon or vic.i guess leon is winner lately pvi 0.30 vic maybe close 1 (mtt lose dont calculate btw for pvi ) but its change weekly if gg close pvi for those guys %95 rakeback is good but if dont for example ; they pay 150K$ rake last session 75K$ for each player leon or vic have 0.30 pvi one player got for %95 rb on 25K$ so 48K$ rake seems good for 200/400 ?

yeah %95 rakeback wow incredible,they have good promo etc. but if you play this site pvi reset everything on the paper.

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I was trying to read your post but then I had a stroke

Pontylads statement is just flat out incorrect although I don’t believe they use PVI at the VIP tables

Is the rake 3% uncapped at all stakes on GG?

So you're saying 2 vips can bleed a casino dry by playing hu vs each other indefinitely with over 100% RB? on a site like GG where rake can be $10k a pot, ha Bull sh*t.

Don't confuse being given a proportion of your losses back, or being paid to play as being the same as rakeback. Everytime a site has offered more than 100% RB it has been gamed. They will have special deals for sure but not ones that can be gamed like over 100% RB.

If anyone will get 100% it will be Leon since kings resort is partnered with GG, he's basically part of GG. Wouldn't be surprised if he earns money from playing there on top but to suggest there's a bunch of vips with over 100% rb has to be wrong.

What two vips playing each other hu? Limitless pays a ton of rake obviously. Tan has access to all the apps and big games as well (I have played in games with tan on said apps, rake is negligible ). These apps have BIGGER games than he was playing on gg and better action for him. Tell me why he’d pay any rake here or play without getting a deal?

If tan gets more than 100% rb or kickback from site there are the five regs who get robbed who are still playing. Why do you think gg is losing here when they’re clearly making a killing from games like this

He's saying that 2 VIPs could play HU with this arrangement and win heaps

So two VIPs with deals in a pool with extreme scarcity in what constitutes a VIP have no idea about the other and find a way to play HU on this site? Or they are intentionally exploiting what is a very valuable deal with them to get their privileges taken away mid session or after its over?

Neither of these things are happening

idk how you think itd be hard for them to communicate. being a small group of people makes it much much easier to do so. then your point of other apps and places to play also makes it more likely for people to attempt to scam the rb.. if you got even 1%, that could be $100/hand for free. and pros are people too, how many people here wouldnt want to "stick it to the man" and take free money from most sites/casinos

Communication is not an issue. The issue is that if you're getting preferential treatment and take advantage of it in such a way where there is ZERO chance you get away with it, you will not be a VIP for very long

All of these things are done through communication, this isn't some FTP monthly million in in the account month to month. You think if Leon and Tan played each other to trade a bunch back and forth they would get paid??? Get real. The people who get to this point are not getting there to con a couple mill in the most public space they could possibly play in

naturia beast is right obv, if 2 VIPs would have over 100% rakeback and play against each other they would get their privilege taken away pretty much right away

im not arguing that, "communicate" to counter the point of not knowing who else is a "vip"

his first post starts with the tone of plural, VIPs, they, etc. if only one is getting 100%+, that still means limitless paid almost $10k to play. if leon is essentially an affiliate with a good deal, he will play there. limitless wants the action so he will play vs him there. thats very far from having options of places to play.

It is essential to know that every player who plays in the GG network, regardless of the poker skin, receives a PVI (Player Value Index). Theoretically, this can vary between 0 and 2. For an occasional gamer who doesn’t play regularly and who is no winning player, the PVI should tend towards 2, while for winning players, it should always be below 1.

if they vip account dont get pvi shitt interesting.if they have pvi %95 rakeback not correct.

if you slightly winner on gg your pvi definetly 0.30 so you rake 100K$ but your %95 rb calculate on 30K$ rake its trick gg network .

so if they vip account reset they pvi all my info shitty.

Did you read my post? The entirety of my post said it doesn’t apply to VIP tables and then you start arguing how 2 VIPs could play HU and exploit it.

I said in previous post limitless does NOT have the options Leon has but if Leon wanted to play for no / small rake he can very easily set this up, thus he is playing with Limitless, someone whose contact he has and has played on plenty of private games / apps because he is making money on gg or not paying rake

lol

tanxuan doesn't care about rakeback

more posting hands, less talking about what ya'll are clueless about

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FYP

GG 200/400 deep with limitless, Linus, etc.

Some VIPs (like Tuan Xuan) may have unlimited money but that doesn't mean they don't care about abhorrent rake or having an edge etc.

It's pretty clear that many of the Macau regs care greatly about improving their game and also not just giving money away to sites.

The VIPs who don't care about those things are going to be the guys who play some poker once in a while for lulz. Not the guys who travel the whole Triton tours etc...

$0.02