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02-28-2022 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SmallPeePee
one day before war started I asked on pokerstars discord will they make any decision to show support for ukraine got no response, second day of war I shared my opinion there that I feel 'disgusted and have moral issues playing with russians on table while they soldiers are destroying ukraine and killing its people' and I got imidiately banned without any warning message
wtf has gone on in your life to post something as idiotic as this, jfc

Good on them for banning your dumb ass.
02-28-2022 , 05:37 AM
It's about putting pressure on them, like the whole world is doing right now - both politically and financially. We need to stop this madness.
I am #AllinAgainstRussia,
ryk from Poland
02-28-2022 , 05:56 AM
How about going after the people that are the issue, rather than the regular people?

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Originally Posted by TRUSTtheDRAWCESS
I do think it's weird how most of the first responses in this thread are from brand new accounts making their first post.
This
02-28-2022 , 06:07 AM
To All Russian and Belarussian players here: I want to believe that majority of You are against that war, and don't want to support your both presidents in that decision.

BUT YOU DO!!!

Even You do not want to, every single ruble or even copeck You spend in Your country is splitted and part of it is going as a tax to the army. Thanks of your support that soldiers are shooting.

Since 20 years You as a nation let that hitler, I mean putin to make his power bigger, make his fortune bigger and let him to become the biggest criminal since 1945.

YOU DID NOTHING... 20 years

So now it is time for the rest of the world to do something.
Stop russian in sport
Stop russian in poker
Stop russian in culture

Of course I mean only people who are in Russia, Belarus and pay taxes there.

No more money to Russia. IT IS YOUR CHOICE.

If You Russians have better idea to fix that problem, let us know. We will read carefully.

I am #AllinAgainstRussia,
02-28-2022 , 06:09 AM
Sorry but I don't agree with stopping all trade from russia. If russia was a democracy/republic this would make far more sense. However, it is obviously a dictatorship, and many are against the war. I stand with the ukrainian people but I think this effort is misguided.
02-28-2022 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Sorry but I don't agree with stopping all trade from russia. If russia was a democracy/republic this would make far more sense. However, it is obviously a dictatorship, and many are against the war. I stand with the ukrainian people but I think this effort is misguided.
Sorry but it is easy to write "I don't agree". More difficult is to write: What then? Give us better idea.
02-28-2022 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Kaczmarol
It's sick what is happening in Ukraine.

Truely believe that biggest poker sites can join and stand against russian aggresion. Exclude them from player pools.

Today after I've changed avatar to "STAY STRONG UKRAINE", few times I got msg on chat "go die" etc by russian players. It's awful.

I'm standing #ALLinAGAINSTrussia

Kaczmarol from Poland
Had the same thing happen to me when I changed my avatar to a Ukrainan flag. Some douche with a Russian flag as avatar tried to tell me that I was a "brainwashed sheep". Yeah sure buddy. I think I heard something somewhere about a pot and a kettle but I forgot...
02-28-2022 , 07:02 AM
it's about the short time frame in which we have a chance to act. as soon as Kiev is taken it might be too late.
it's also about making russian people aware of the situation. do you know that yesterday there were two russian soldiers who went to local ukrainian police station to ask where they can fuel their tank? did you watch talks with russian POWs on twitter? there is plenty of that every day. thats how disinformed they are. they are certain that they are rescuing ukrainians from their government. if soldiers are that brainwashed, so are regular people
its about making an average russian citizen to stop and reflect when they are totally isolated from the rest of the world for being a citizen of the country that kills children and innocent people

#AllinAgainstRussia

kylsonn1 from Poland
02-28-2022 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kylsonn1
it's about the short time frame in which we have a chance to act. as soon as Kiev is taken it might be too late.
Hopefully we can hurry up and prevent Russian citizens from playing poker and prevent Kiev from falling!

It’s thinking like this that led to the disgraceful Japanese-American internment camps in WWII.
02-28-2022 , 07:48 AM
I can agree that banning players from online games might be "misguided" or "emotional". Not having a stance at all is the other end of that spectrum.
02-28-2022 , 07:54 AM
Whether or not Pokerstars bans Russian players from an ethical stance they absolutely need to put a hold on any deposits and withdrawals from Russian players.
As atm they are going directly against economic sanctions that the West are imposing by allowing foreign transactions to and from Russian bank accounts.

I suggest those that feel strongly about this email pokerstars and other platforms that they play on as a thread like this will quickly turn into a toxic **** show.

Imo the Russian population need to do more to protest against the war if that is their feeling before their country is isolated and suffering economic turmoil due to this mad man that is in control.
02-28-2022 , 08:21 AM
I can't understand why Pokerstars didn't cancel EPT Sochi. No event should be held in Russia for the next few years. As long as Russian troops are in Ukraine, players from Russia should not have access to any poker room.

I'm #AllinAgainstRussia

pLuteczko from Poland
02-28-2022 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pLuteczko
I can't understand why Pokerstars didn't cancel EPT Sochi. No event should be held in Russia for the next few years. As long as Russian troops are in Ukraine, players from Russia should not have access to any poker room.

I'm #AllinAgainstRussia

pLuteczko from Poland
Says a lot about the ethics of Pokerstars if that's the case 🙄

Not really surprised though.
02-28-2022 , 08:50 AM
I hate Putin, not Russians. Russia is a dictatorship. Flow of information is strictly controlled. Most Russians are probably against the war. Some protest and are immediately arrested.

For this reason, I don't think Russian players should be banned from poker rooms.
02-28-2022 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Frenbar
Nothing like war propaganda on the poker forum. But since this nonsense is apparently being allowed to be posted in NVG..

If Russians should be banned because Russia invaded Ukraine, should US players be banned because we invaded Iraq? How about Syria? We unilaterally invaded Syria illegally, violating all international laws and legal conventions, just like Russia did when they invaded Ukraine. Our troops are there, in Syria, right now, illegally occupying Syria and killing Syrians. We are also illegally seizing their oil with our occupying troops. I've not heard of Russian troops occupying Ukrainian oil fields and stealing their oil yet, but if they do you can imagine the media and DC blob howling!

If you start blocking people from playing poker with each other based on the crimes of their governments nobody will be playing any poker with anyone else anywhere - which ironically is what most of these governments want.
Most level-headed take of the thread IMO. War is terrible no matter what, yet people seem to simply not care when it's in the Middle East and doesn't directly affect them. Before Black Friday, nobody was advocating for US players to be banned from online poker rooms. Even nowadays, the vast majority of players would love to have USA back in the global poker market.
02-28-2022 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Pentakilator
I can agree that banning players from online games might be "misguided" or "emotional". Not having a stance at all is the other end of that spectrum.
What's the opposite of "misguided" or "emotional?"
misguided - having or showing faulty judgment or reasoning.
emotional - relating to a person's emotions

Would that every decision, ever were made opposite these adjectives.
02-28-2022 , 09:58 AM
I too think all poker regulations should be based on the decisions of one bad guy and that it makes a lot of sense to financially punish these citizens based on their birthplace(basically RNG). All poker sites should be ethically obligated to have a historian on staff to comb through the various wars and other moral atrocities committed by the governments to whose citizens they provide service. Poker should be for people who live under the rule of nice people, full stop.
02-28-2022 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Frenbar
Nothing like war propaganda on the poker forum. But since this nonsense is apparently being allowed to be posted in NVG..

If Russians should be banned because Russia invaded Ukraine, should US players be banned because we invaded Iraq? How about Syria? We unilaterally invaded Syria illegally, violating all international laws and legal conventions, just like Russia did when they invaded Ukraine. Our troops are there, in Syria, right now, illegally occupying Syria and killing Syrians. We are also illegally seizing their oil with our occupying troops. I've not heard of Russian troops occupying Ukrainian oil fields and stealing their oil yet, but if they do you can imagine the media and DC blob howling!

If you start blocking people from playing poker with each other based on the crimes of their governments nobody will be playing any poker with anyone else anywhere - which ironically is what most of these governments want.
So you are scared because you can't bot NL5 anymore? Hopefully every site kicks the scum russians are out. I'm #AllinAgainstRussia from Finland.
02-28-2022 , 10:40 AM
I'm actually quite shocked at some of the ignorant posts tbh.
But regardless, Pokerstars and UK/European platforms will have no choice.

Even Switzerland, a neutral country, have just announced they are implementing similar EU sanctions.

Putin has basically waged war on the West and appart from directly engaging NATO with Russian forces tough sanctions are the best way to stop these attocities on the Ukrainian people and whatever next he has planned.

Pokerstars etc I guess will be told pretty sharpesh that they cannot continue with monetary transactions to and from Russian bank accounts.
02-28-2022 , 11:02 AM
FIFA has just suspended Russia until further notice.
02-28-2022 , 11:08 AM
ACR/WPN is profiting off of the Russian Economy. Does ACR/WPN have any comment on that?
02-28-2022 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Frenbar
Nothing like war propaganda on the poker forum. But since this nonsense is apparently being allowed to be posted in NVG..

If Russians should be banned because Russia invaded Ukraine, should US players be banned because we invaded Iraq? How about Syria? We unilaterally invaded Syria illegally, violating all international laws and legal conventions, just like Russia did when they invaded Ukraine. Our troops are there, in Syria, right now, illegally occupying Syria and killing Syrians. We are also illegally seizing their oil with our occupying troops. I've not heard of Russian troops occupying Ukrainian oil fields and stealing their oil yet, but if they do you can imagine the media and DC blob howling!

If you start blocking people from playing poker with each other based on the crimes of their governments nobody will be playing any poker with anyone else anywhere - which ironically is what most of these governments want.

US troops in Iraq and Syria are nothing like what is happening in Ukraine - you arent really dull enough to think that are you?
02-28-2022 , 11:36 AM
Thank you for all the support.

For those who agree with us, please spread the news about our action in all your poker group, skype groups, discord channels etc. Try to reach top poker players in your country, with greatest reach. Post links and start discussions on PokerStars, PartyPoker or GGPoker discussion groups. Please post in your social media, tag important poker people on Twitter. And please use our hashtags! #NoPokerInRussia #ALLinAgainstRussia

For those who disagree, thank you for the cultural discussion. I know we all agree about endgoal - stopping Russia. We may disagree in ways to achieve it, but not a single person in the world can be sure of what the right way is. We need to try everything.

In this fight, we're #AllinAgainstRussia.
02-28-2022 , 11:46 AM
I am #AllinAgainstRussia, #AllinAgainstPutin #StayStrongUkraine

Mikson from Poland
02-28-2022 , 12:08 PM
+1 for #AllinAgainstRussia, #AllinAgainstPutin #StayStrongUkraine

JJ from Poland

      
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