I just figured out how to get to the bottom of this. I'm going to go in undercover to seduce Annie Duke and right before I make her orgasm:

"SPILL THE ****ING BEANS ABOUT THE SUPERUSER BITCH"

She'll never know what hit her

(Until it gets shot into her hair and eyeballs.)

well if these guys are living and playing in the US the US government might be interested in money laundering and tax evasion charges. It's the only thing they could get these guys on

LOL this is is so sick and perfect!

Someone give us UB n00bs a cliff notes plz, including why Hellmuth and Deeb's names are all over this.

the rest of phil's audit is some more ring game results, looks like he actually made some money during this stretch:
the very last piece of info in this audit is a transfer from Phil to hunter550 for $1000 on aug 8th.

unless hunter550 or WOLFDEN are super users, i dont see anything too suspicious in phil's audit.

cliffnotes: Whistleblower produces history of an account "-Fred-", which seems to be nothing more than a station for distributing funds, with Russ Hamilton and perhaps others reimbursing it. Included is a $10,000 transfer transfer to ShaqTack, a known superuser. kid55, which is registered to deeb, got $150,000 from this account. People go wild about the fact that "55" is in a lot of the superuser handles, which is deeb's favorite hand or birthday year or lucky number or in kid55 or whatever. Lots of speculation that doesn't mean anything yet, especially when respected names like KrazyKanuck are in the transfer histories. Hellmuth is where the employee's investigation started and how he got to deeb and then to the -fred- account connected to a superuser, but unless I'm misinterpreting I don't think he's suggesting Phil's part of any wrongdoing. At any rate, -fred- transfers 10k to a superuser's account (we're going to assume this means -fred- probably knows who this account is), and -fred- either is Russ Hamilton (the account that reimbursed -fred- for this) and UB management, or someone who has a very close relationship with them.

Everybody of course correct where I've misstated anything, and add what I've left out.

I wholeheartedly believe that Phil had nothing to do with this, doubt Annie either. Deeb and Russ Hamilton have to be in on this in some way. Funny, Ive always thought since day 1 of this superuser stuff that Russ was in on it but didnt say anything just in case he wasnt. Deeb is a shocker to me.

Also if you look up RussHamilton on mypokerintel, it says that on 8/31/07 Russ dumped 50k exactly at a 50-100 table. Ive never known who it was to though, looking through mpi to see if one of these other names won 50k at that time

This is an assumption by one person that people have kind of run with. The only connection at this point seems to be that -Fred- transferred funds to Freddy's Kid55 account and also to superuser Shaqtank.

If we accept -Fred- as Russ H's filter/operational/whatever account then I think the focus should start there first based on info in these threads.

I think we have our answer.

apefish,

why do you keep ignoring that Freddy Deeb's acct was closed one day before ShaqTack's?

What are the odds.... Like seriously

and his email address ends in 55

Freddy could be reading this and paying off 2p2ers to try and have us move away from the idea of him being involved.

There is a lot more evidence pointing to the Kid55 account. Namely, 1.4 million in withdrawals more than deposits and the fact that the account was active during the cheating but somehow managed to not get cheated. The account was closed at the same time the superusers were. And finally, anyone that got money from -Fred- knows who the superuser/cheater was.

There is no way he won 1.4 million in the UB 25-50 games. It stands to reason the superusers cheated then funneled the money to Kid55 (and others) to cashout. Management approved the cashouts even though Kid55 didn't win all the money playing live. The big earlier deposits happened before the cheating started or maybe Kid55 was an early investor (odd way to send investment capital but makes sense if he wants to make it look like it was to play poker for tax reasons). There are a lot of plausible explanations for the big early deposits.

Brainwashed (R.I.P.) really was a dodo bird. If he could of had some guidance on what information to get, instead of wasting our time with Lyle Berman screenshots, we'd have the whole story.

NLL,

I agree with apefish here. The best way to go about this is to focus on the facts. It's okay to note connections to Mark Seif or Freddy Deeb and ask questions, but I think if we do too much speculating and not enough figuring out what we know for sure, it becomes much more of a "zomg rigged" thread than accusations that are going to have any credibility.

fleece,

brainwashed was just an employee who decided to do his own investigation. I doubt he knows the whole story either, but he knows from just a little poking around that something is very wrong with a few of these account histories.

We have already established that KID55 was Freddy Deebs account right? The superuser transfered a huge sum of money to KID55. The superuser account and Freddy Deebs account were then shut down within 24 hrs of each other. Im not sherlock holmes, but...

mersenneary, wtf are you talking about, apefish was mistaken, i never said -Fred- was freddy deebs, i asked if anyone could confirm this, thats it. any speculations i made i acknowledged were speculations.

Dave_K, the transfer with the superuser, ShaqTack was from -Fred- for 10k, not from kid55. the only suspicious thing about kid55 rt now is when it was closed and it was also linked to -Fred- thru transfers.

I think you were payed off by Freddy.

what in the world are you talking about. I've said that timing was interesting at least three times now including this post.


Look- if you didn't realize that you typed what you typed fine- but I'm not calling you out- I'm just cautioning people to not jump to conclusions when it appears that's where the connection seems to have originated.

No. An account that funded lots of accounts, including one superuser, also transferred money to kid55. We don't have transfer histories of any superusers and the only recorded transfer from brainwashed's data to or from a superuser is -fred- to ShaqTack for 10k. -fred- is not a known superuser and has transferred money to a lot of people, basically it just seems to be doing UB's bidding. No superuser has transferred money to kid55, only this suspicious -fred- account.

Look let's put this to rest- your words were "-Fred-, i assume is another one of Freddy's accounts and made a transfer with ShaqTack, one of the superusers."

That's the first time all three of those names are connected together and I think it's flimsy based on an assumption that you now are stating was really a question for people.

You said it. People appear to have focused on it. If you want to state that you really have no idea if it's true or not fine. PM a mod to fix it- whatever.

But saying you didn't say it is not only ridiculous- it's not even my point.

You do good things in threads like this- but I thought this was something that needed reeling in since it wasn't a hard connection at all.

THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE SUPERUSER CASE TIMES INFINITY

this is you stating that the ONLY thing suspicious about Freddy Deeb at this point is that he is linked to -Fred-, completely ignoring the fact about when his account was closed.

here is you referring to the fact that the only connection freddy has right now is that he was tranferred money from -Fred-:
as i stated in the other thread, my comments about assuming were in response to others, including N 82 saying that -Fred- was Freddy Deebs. I used the word assume to clarify that i do not know that this account is Freddy's and that it is just an assumption. N 82 didnt give any additional info or sources, so I stated that this was an assumption by me. maybe N 82 was wrong or i mis interpreted. I think everyone understands that -Fred- might not be Freddy's account. This entrie thing has been incredibly confusing. I dont understand why brainwashdodo did what he did without making any accusations. I guess he wanted to leave some evidence and have us figure out what was going on instead of just telling us.

No. That's me saying i haven't seen anything else that links -Fred- to freddy deeb. Just read.

Just stop all of this. I was right to point out that -Fred- to freddy deep was a tenuous leap at this point. Sorry if you don't like that you were the one who lept. It's nothing personal. I would have said it to MicroBob or CTS or whatever.

kevmath or trambo, plz make a new thread regarding this new info.

This is the main thing. Plus Freddy said he worked for UB.