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Amaya CEO David Baazov charged with insider trading (3/23), steps down as CEO (3/29/16) Amaya CEO David Baazov charged with insider trading (3/23), steps down as CEO (3/29/16)

03-24-2016 , 01:14 AM
where is this $1.5M figure coming from? I didn't see it in the PRs but maybe I'm missing something?
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03-24-2016 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hoppyhommy
Can anyone explain why Baazov insider trading would make the stock plunge
If he's possibly guilty of this, what other dodgy business has he been up to (or is capable of) in an industry where credibility is a big deal.

hint: dodgy business could be, pumping up short term earnings (rake grab) at expense of the longer term business
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03-24-2016 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hoppyhommy
Can anyone explain why Baazov insider trading would make the stock plunge
Cuz the rumored deal to go private which was substantially propping up the stock is probably on indefinite hold despite what DB says.
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03-24-2016 , 01:27 AM
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03-24-2016 , 01:28 AM
Amaya's reign of Pokerstars will go down as yet another tragic event in the history of online poker.

-Absolute Poker super user scandal
-Black Friday
-Full Tilt Poker
-Amaya

The guys running this site are criminals. Just look at their checkered criminal history, look at the Baazov family, and look at what they've done so far with ownership of Pokerstars. The writing is on the wall.
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03-24-2016 , 01:31 AM
Dnegs made any comment yet?
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03-24-2016 , 01:34 AM
And let me act as a voice of reason against those who could potentially be spreading DANGEROUS CONSPIRACY THEORIES: clearly the recent push made by the Quebec government to ban all illegal gambling sites (that is, all of them except those that they control) and the accusations at hand AREN'T, CAN'T, COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE ASSOCIATED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. Any apparence of collusion or entities working with one another can surely be explained by our blatant incompetence, or because of other reasons, as you see fit, and if there was ever to be any apparence of such entities benefiting of things, then you should get checked for paranoia or BUY A NEW TINFOIL HAT YOU CONSPIRACY THEORISTS
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03-24-2016 , 01:35 AM
Apparently on 2p2 it's "Guilty till proven innocent." Wait... Scratch that, it's "guilty no matter what, because we hate how Amaya's ruining online poker."
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03-24-2016 , 01:36 AM
Raidalot needs to step up to the plate imo.
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03-24-2016 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by WTFIJustDid
What the hell? How can such a nice jewish boy, David Baazov, well-mannered and with very soft features, resort to this? Something has gone wrong, somewhere!!!

According to latest data he hasn't given up on facial skin care; this thought should bring shareholders a small relief.

It is conventional wisdom around most upscale, pristine clean orthodox jewish neighborhoods that once skin care takes a hit, the rest tend to fall in the abyss right with it so be on the lookout,

Im sure rabbis all around Quebec are astounded.
Just Like Mordechai never Bowed to Haman May David Baazov never bow to the Canadian SEC....
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03-24-2016 , 02:11 AM
why market getting crazy now ? news cover the suspection months before. it is only cuz they make it official ?
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03-24-2016 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by StraightFlooosh
Apparently on 2p2 it's "Guilty till proven innocent." Wait... Scratch that, it's "guilty no matter what, because we hate how Amaya's ruining online poker."
Seems a reasonable line to take.
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03-24-2016 , 03:54 AM
investigators were SNEs obv
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03-24-2016 , 04:00 AM
Where's Renegs?
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03-24-2016 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
Wtf does it have to do with him being Jewish. I love that all these anti Semites come out of the wood work whenever a Jew does something dodgy and insinuate that it's in a Jews nature to do so.

Can we get a ban here mod?
u love that? so u antisemite bro? lets get a ban here
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03-24-2016 , 04:53 AM
I wonder if Negreanu, Hollreiser, Matthew Hilger and Lee Jones would have been so willing to defend Baazov's multi-million dollar theft from SN+ players if this news had already been broken, and if his shady past had been more widely known.
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03-24-2016 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by coach999
u love that? so u antisemite bro? lets get a ban here
Dappadan is Jewish tho, bro.
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03-24-2016 , 05:24 AM
This tale has a general leson for investors - Corporate Governance matters.

The fund I use for my share investments has a corporate governance filter - they will never hold shares in a firm where the CEO is also the Chairman, or in Baazov's case CEO, Chairman and President, presumably as the ego needs that extra boost.

Not only is Baazov too dominant Amaya has a very small and weak board. Dominated by Baazov.

http://www.amaya.com/amaya/leadership/

Nobody has been holding Baazov to account.

The urgent next step for Amaya is to somehow find a credible Chair and some effective independent directors.
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03-24-2016 , 05:33 AM
"I have always been proud of my reputation for personal integrity and ethical business conduct. As the founder, president and CEO of Amaya, i want to provide my personal assurance to all our stakeholders, our more than 100 million playing members*, vendors and our public security holders that i am as confident as ever in Amaya's business operations and future prospects"

lol baaaz

*
Spoiler:
e.g. 90 million members and Brian Hastings
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03-24-2016 , 05:38 AM
lying scum
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03-24-2016 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
I wonder if Negreanu, Hollreiser, Matthew Hilger and Lee Jones would have been so willing to defend Baazov's multi-million dollar theft from SN+ players if this news had already been broken, and if his shady past had been more widely known.
You know they would, probably for the same amount of $'s as if they didn't know.
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03-24-2016 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by slr940
Amaya itself just said that they, their other directors or officers, or any of their subsidiaries were not charged with anything.

It is strictly a criminal case that affects David Baazov. Remember the Martha Stewart case? Same thing. Didn't affect MSLO. She even came out of prison to run it again.
Well I'm surprised that they have indicted other directors or officers as that is usually a sign of a more endemic and widespread corruption or malpractice at the company. They must have something very specific on Baazov that doesn't affect anyone else or really any other operation of the company.
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03-24-2016 , 05:53 AM
on the plus side, stock is almost cheap enough we could all buy enough shares and vote all of them out. (tho dunno if we could before baazov buys out and takes over (btw--I can't think of a response like that from an innocent person offhand))

I'm willing to torch a few bucks for the cause anyway.

Baazov seems like one of those guys who always gets into power and always goes too far with it and it blows up and he always believes he did nothing wrong. A classic psycho.
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03-24-2016 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by slr940
Another thing to think about is that, from my understanding, the CEO didn't personally profit from insider trading. He has never sold a single share of Amaya.

What is being alleged is that he (along with the others accused, including brokers) told others about the deal.

25 or so people have been charged, with total "illegal" profits being abou $1.3 million.
It doesn't matter that he didn't personally profit from it. The fact that he could have is good enough. Also there is nothing precluding the others that he has told cutting him a slice of the deal through a third party arrangement.

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Originally Posted by TopPair2Pair
Also, goodbye credible board members imo, if they have any kind of decent reputation, take a pay packet and back these kind of shortcuts... i highly doubt there is any dudediligence going on behind the scenes. that said, please shut the **** up about the rng -- theres threads and porn for that kind of bs.
If Baazov is found guilty or accepts the charges and pleads guilty, then the board (for those that won't be separately charged following the outcome of the prosecution of Baazov) will most certainly have to as they appointed him and therefore, need to take the fall for this appointment that has gone wrong.

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Originally Posted by _Loki_
Regarding your last point: There is no need to worry about the Baazov charge - the site doesn't depend on the CEO to continue running. In the medium/long term [months/years not days] there is some risk of some market regulators reviewing the licence they granted to PokerStars *IF* Baazov or others are found guilty. But I think the risk of an existing licence being pulled is small given that these licences aren't issued for free
Yes in the very short term the company doesn't need a CEO to function. I'm talking about a week maybe two tops given the size of the company. However, after this period of time, they will need to appoint an Acting CEO to be able to function (making decisions for the company that only the CEO can re operations) and that also comes from not just again about the size of the company but also their requirements as a publicly listed company.

Last edited by bundy5; 03-24-2016 at 06:09 AM.
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03-24-2016 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Richas
This tale has a general leson for investors - Corporate Governance matters.

The fund I use for my share investments has a corporate governance filter - they will never hold shares in a firm where the CEO is also the Chairman, or in Baazov's case CEO, Chairman and President, presumably as the ego needs that extra boost.

Not only is Baazov too dominant Amaya has a very small and weak board. Dominated by Baazov.

http://www.amaya.com/amaya/leadership/

Nobody has been holding Baazov to account.

The urgent next step for Amaya is to somehow find a credible Chair and some effective independent directors.

LOL, General Wesley Clark is independent director, the guy is a war hawk, whats next madeleine albright?
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