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Amateur Filmmaker Tries To Crowdfund Documentary For WSOP Main Event Buyin (breaks WSOP rules) Amateur Filmmaker Tries To Crowdfund Documentary For WSOP Main Event Buyin (breaks WSOP rules)

06-04-2014 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Oh. You know, when I was making videos as a hobby I was unemployed and not doing very much with my life. I was having fun with it, but I was kind of a loser with no direction.

That all changed last year. Now I have structure in my life, a LTR with a lovely PokerNews reject, skills acquired with experience in the field, and prospects for the future.

I would hope that most people are happy for me, but I can see why some might think I sold out, and I'm okay with that. Don't be sad for me. I wouldn't change a thing.
I don't think you sold out by doing poker news. But I lost respect for you when you ratted out some unknown broke dude who was trying to get a buyin to the WSOP in a creative way. I used to play poker in underground illegal card rooms...are you going to call the cops on me now that you know that?
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06-04-2014 , 06:33 PM
I wasn't trying to tattle on anyone. It was all already public after all. I just thought it was interesting/amusing and decided to share.
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06-04-2014 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
But I lost respect for you when you ratted out some unknown broke dude who was trying to get a buyin to the WSOP in a totally misleading way.
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06-05-2014 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Oh. You know, when I was making videos as a hobby I was unemployed and not doing very much with my life. I was having fun with it, but I was kind of a loser with no direction.
Yeah, man. Nobody ever made a dime doing YouTube videos, I guess.

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That all changed last year. Now I have structure in my life, a LTR with a lovely PokerNews reject, skills acquired with experience in the field, and prospects for the future.

I would hope that most people are happy for me, but I can see why some might think I sold out, and I'm okay with that. Don't be sad for me. I wouldn't change a thing.
I'm not sure I agree that you sold out as much as settled for being a cog in a mediocre media apparatus. You've gone from high-level clowning of deserving parties to ratting out low-rent nobodies who represent some strange form of new media that I'm sure your masters and their corporate pals do not like.

All good though. Your life, your choice. I'm just some guy on the internet; what do I know?
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06-05-2014 , 02:22 AM
Why the hate for SS. The guy did what everyone wants to do in life. He turned his hobby into a job. That's awsome
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06-05-2014 , 03:05 AM
I really don't see how he ratted him out being that he posted already public information.

I think there is also a difference between playing in an illegal room and breaking rules in a tournament. I would bet that when you were playing in that illegal room you still followed the house rules and the rules of poker.
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06-05-2014 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 20th Level Ranger
I'm not sure I agree that you sold out as much as settled for being a cog in a mediocre media apparatus. You've gone from high-level clowning of deserving parties to ratting out low-rent nobodies who represent some strange form of new media that I'm sure your masters and their corporate pals do not like.
Did you not read the posts I made about not caring or feeling threatened if other people make poker videos, or do you just think I'm lying about it? If this guy succeeds in making his documentary, more power to him. The reason I found all this interesting is because he almost certainly won't for many obvious reasons that have nothing to do with this thread.
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06-05-2014 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 20th Level Ranger
Yeah, man. Nobody ever made a dime doing YouTube videos, I guess.

I'm not sure I agree that you sold out as much as settled for being a cog in a mediocre media apparatus. You've gone from high-level clowning of deserving parties to ratting out low-rent nobodies who represent some strange form of new media that I'm sure your masters and their corporate pals do not like.

All good though. Your life, your choice. I'm just some guy on the internet; what do I know?
Wow hahaha

This is so ridiculous.

The Poker Community should be thankful that an individual with great production and interview skills even works in the industry. The quality of content SrslySirius produces for BLUFF, he could easily be working for a bigger company.

You could say that SrslySirius' decision to produce such high quality content for a niche market is quite admirable. Most people with his skills would be working for a bigger broadcasting company.

Last edited by Kralex; 06-05-2014 at 03:58 AM.
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06-05-2014 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kralex
Wow hahaha

This is so ridiculous.

The Poker Community should be thankful that an individual with great production skills even works in the industry. The quality of content SrslySirius produces for BLUFF, he could easily be working for a bigger company.

You could say that SrslySirius' decision to produce such high quality content for a niche market is quite admirable. Most people with his skills would be working for broadcasting company.
That's very kind of you to say. Thank you.

For what it's worth, despite working for evil corporate overlords, I do still engage in "high-level trolling" from time to time.

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06-05-2014 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 20th Level Ranger
I'm just some guy on the internet; what do I know?
First accurate thing you've said.
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06-05-2014 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
That's very kind of you to say. Thank you.

For what it's worth, despite working for evil corporate overlords, I do still engage in "high-level trolling" from time to time.

Very nice.
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06-05-2014 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Did you not read the posts I made about not caring or feeling threatened if other people make poker videos, or do you just think I'm lying about it? If this guy succeeds in making his documentary, more power to him. The reason I found all this interesting is because he almost certainly won't for many obvious reasons that have nothing to do with this thread.
Yeah, I am distrustful of establishment media in all sectors. It's quite clear that this guy's alleged goal (to make a guerilla documentary) is in direct opposition to establishment interests, of which you are now a part. For your part, I'd much rather see you find him and interview him than try to drag him through the mud on 2p2. That would be a far more interesting way to deal with a guy like this. I like when you punch up, but when you punch down, you're just entrenching establishment values, which I don't really like. But again, that's just me.

After that, you can do an expose on Gary Loveman and try to decipher how one guy can be such a titanic clown.
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06-05-2014 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 20th Level Ranger
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Since this thread has been created the guy claimed to be going a different route and applying for media credentials so possibly SS did him a favor by making this thread.

Even if he didn't make the thread someone else would have and it wouldn't have been a big deal. But because SS works in the media and made a thread he "ratted him out" and some of you are crying about it. As far as I know SS isn't in to making poker documentaries so to think he would be worried about this guy cutting into his slice of the pie doesn't really make sense.

He found News (NVG) about poker and expressed his Views (NVG) and now we are all Gossiping (NVG) about it which seems like a pretty standard thread for NVG.
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06-05-2014 , 01:17 PM
Nobody claimed this isn't a standard thread. Thanks for clearing that up, though, just in case.
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06-05-2014 , 01:37 PM
I guess SS is getting hate because his OP seemed more about "how dare a videomaker make a video against the rules when I/others choose to follow them" but really, that's not the point.

The problem here is that the OP had a pretty misleading campaign, with no mentions of what he was doing being against rules + being pretty misleading about his chances.

If people want to question SS's motives, so be it, but that doesn't really seem relevant here. What is relevant is that a guy was trying to manipulate people into giving him money without giving them reasonable and relevant information.

Of course, you'd hope that SS wouldn't make this thread if the guy had given full disclosure on his page, but who knows, if he had done that then it might be right to flame SS. No reason to here though, he did the community a favor.
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06-05-2014 , 02:00 PM
I would have enjoyed watching this with the hidden cams and what not. I think a better approach by SS would have been to bring attention to the documentary but not completely out the guys name which was clearly meant to get him in trouble.
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06-05-2014 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
I would have enjoyed watching this with the hidden cams and what not. I think a better approach by SS would have been to bring attention to the documentary but not completely out the guys name which was clearly meant to get him in trouble.
This question has been posted several times but never answered: how exactly do you "out" someone when they've already posted everything they are planning on doing in public?
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09-18-2014 , 09:59 AM
A bit of a dead-thread revival, but Ian has now told his story in an article on PokerNews Canada.

http://ca.pokernews.com/news/2014/09...-made-4995.htm
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09-18-2014 , 11:38 AM
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In one interesting hand, everyone folded to us in the blinds, and he min-raised from the small blind. I look down at {A-Spades}{10-Clubs} and three-bet him two times his bet. Joseph called.

The flop was {2-Spades}{7-Hearts}{8-Diamonds}. He checked and I check behind for pot control.

The turn came {9-Clubs}. He checked. I bet my up and down straight draw with a back door draw to an ace, and he check-raised me a big chunk of my chips.
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09-18-2014 , 03:04 PM
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I’m a favorite to at least make the money, doubling your investment.
What surprises me is that nobody has pointed out that the minimum cashes ("at least make the money") in the ME aren't a full 100% ROI. Last year, positions 692 to 622 paid $18,406, with positions 693-695 splitting one of those payouts. $20,228 up to 550th, and $22,678 from 549 to 478.

Apart from the delusional claim of being "a favorite" to cash, even if he got to the money, he'd have to get a lot deeper for investors to make 100% after taxes.

Day 1 bustouts from this year: (1A) Bruno Fitussi, Steven Gee, Jean-Robert Bellande, David Chiu, Marc-Etienne McLaughlin, (1B) David Diaz, Mohsin Charania, Bertrand "ElkY" Grospellier, Paul Volpe, Chris Moorman, Joe Serock, Dan Shak, Robert Mizrachi, Minh Ly, Andy Black, David Sands, (1C) Tuan Lam, Ivan Demidov, John Racener, Jesse Sylvia, Greg Raymer, Jerry Yang, Sam Trickett, Kathy Liebert, Andre Akkari, David Ulliott, Stephen Chidwick, Davidi Kitai, Andy Frankenberger, Tom Schneider, Jackie Glazier.
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09-19-2014 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sba9630
What if you don't reach your goal?
If my goal is not reached, then your pledge will be put towards an entry fee to a smaller U.S. poker tournament recognized by the Hendon Mob, Card Player Magazine, and Bluff Magazine websites. There will be no documentary made if the goal is not met, but you will receive a similar contract and hourly updates in my progress during play of the selected tournament, including live photo and video updates.
ill just take the $10k and play the Sun and Wed dailys at my local casino. Ill also take $300 and get a rub and tug and will record the entire thing with hidden mics. I have applied to film at the massage parlor and they have given permission to film the money shot only.
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09-19-2014 , 09:27 AM
SrslySrs didnt rat him out. If dude ever got thia made we would face lawsuits because the only he can profit from would be to show he broke rules willingly.

HAHAH i swear most of you guys are just stupid or trolls or both.
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09-19-2014 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MK7749
SrslySrs didnt rat him out. If dude ever got thia made we would face lawsuits because the only he can profit from would be to show he broke rules willingly.

HAHAH i swear most of you guys are just stupid or trolls or both.
Pot calling the kettle black?
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06-03-2015 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerDocumentary
Great. Cant wait and good luck. From one documentary maker to another, go live the dream!
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