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02-23-2011 , 02:39 PM

Isidiop

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http://www.hochgepokert.com/2011/02/...e-eingereicht/

Cliffs: was banned from partouche final table beause he was accused of cheating.
although partouche claimed to bring this to court, it seems theres no investigation from officials yet.
Now Ali has taken a french lawyer and wants 1.5 mio from partouche (1.3 mio for possible first place + 200K for the damage his reputation got)
first date on court is 1st april, no joke.

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02-23-2011 , 02:41 PM

Tirppa

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what a joke

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02-23-2011 , 02:48 PM

Da33le

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a settlement won't repair his reputation.

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02-23-2011 , 02:52 PM

Posemuckel

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The decision to ban him was very dangerous. When there is no investigation yet, Partouche is probably not able to precure clear and authoritative evidence.

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02-23-2011 , 03:06 PM

coxquinn

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**** Ali Tekintamgac and anyone helping him cheat

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02-23-2011 , 03:29 PM

NoahSD

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Ugh.. this is not a good precedent. A big part of the reason that sites and casinos are terrified to confiscate funds and refund players is because they're afraid of lawsuits like this.

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02-23-2011 , 03:32 PM

ThatsABingo

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murder is legal right?

im sure someone is desparate enough

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02-23-2011 , 03:44 PM

zerofan

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Ali.....you are further damaging your reputation.

Good for you!

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02-23-2011 , 05:19 PM

Todd Terry

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

Ugh.. this is not a good precedent. A big part of the reason that sites and casinos are terrified to confiscate funds and refund players is because they're afraid of lawsuits like this.

Having sites and casinos accountable to legal authorities for seizing money from people is a bad thing??

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02-23-2011 , 05:27 PM

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NoahSD

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Originally Posted by Todd Terry

Having sites and casinos accountable to legal authorities for seizing money from people is a bad thing??

In theory, of course not. In practice, yes.

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02-23-2011 , 05:28 PM

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TiredOldMan

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Thanks to Google translation I now know that the article has a picture of his female attorney rather than of the accused. Niiiice.

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02-23-2011 , 05:37 PM

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AceMuncher

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Hopefully his bloggers will be there to cover the trial from inside, they can't miss such a opportunity....

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02-23-2011 , 05:41 PM

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djkelly69

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But when is the live web interview?

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02-23-2011 , 09:50 PM

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Yaksha

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

In theory, of course not. In practice, yes.

lol? If they can reasonably prove that he was cheating, then they have nothing to fear. If they can't, they shouldn't have banned him for cheating.

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02-23-2011 , 10:44 PM

#15

apefish

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Surely there's some official he can bribe to get friendly ruling.

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02-23-2011 , 11:34 PM

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JohnnyDrama030

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someone should tell the french judge about icm lol

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02-24-2011 , 01:00 AM

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Josem

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

In theory, of course not. In practice, yes.

That's the natural consequence of operating in a properly regulated environment.

In every other area of the economy, the courts serve as the final arbiter on any dispute, seems fair for it to apply here too.

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02-24-2011 , 02:36 AM

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Ruudolf

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based on what was he removed from the tournament? What was the proof used that he cheated? And by a proof i mean a proof that does work on court aswell? If there wasnt one i see him winning this pretty clearly

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02-24-2011 , 02:46 AM

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chopitup

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it wont have to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. just balance of probabilities or preponderance of the evidence. pretty sure they can meet that requirement.

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02-24-2011 , 02:55 AM

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Badly Drawn Blue

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mS76wmeGY

Watch the photographer behind his opponent between 00:25 - 00:34, then you decide.

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02-24-2011 , 04:46 AM

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Posemuckel

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Originally Posted by Badly Drawn Blue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mS76wmeGY

Watch the photographer behind his opponent between 00:25 - 00:34, then you decide.

that's in Barcelona, not PPT Cannes. And not a real proof which would be relevant for a judge!

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02-24-2011 , 11:12 AM

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leconnaisseur

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Originally Posted by Posemuckel

that's in Barcelona, not PPT Cannes. And not a real proof which would be relevant for a judge!

hahaha talking all that time and preparation to cheat only to raise a million flag on the final hand of the tourney

i wouldn't ever let someone behing me like that while playing, even in a 1-2 game in a bar. he would get a nice gtfo lol.

q5................

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02-24-2011 , 11:25 AM

#23

TipTopDaddy

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Not to mention that last month him and his POS cronies were caught and thrown out of the DOM classics in Utrecht (Netherlands).
The casino couldn't prove signalling without a doubt but his fake blog friends were there again... of course blogging behind the opponents in the hand.

Recent one: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...-again-968575/

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02-24-2011 , 11:38 AM

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Dave47

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When he signed up for the PPT he agreed to all the terms and conditions- conditions which allow for the disqualification of a player if he is suspected of cheating; So basically my point is this will not be an easy case for him at all

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02-24-2011 , 12:34 PM

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Sanchito83

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Originally Posted by NoahSD

In theory, of course not. In practice, yes.

I actually disagree with you here.

Very often laws get improved because they have led to undesired results. Not applying these laws at all just leaves a constant grey area that noone feels comfortable with.

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