Until your middle aged and your brain is mush from an ounce a day

I really can't believe that nobody mentioned the possibility that the Krux's agriculture activities may be a result of losing their primary income after BF.

Of course 90% of us would not take this route but you all know when people(we) are backed into a corner, survival may far outweigh common sense & rationality.

Just sayin....

Criminalize---->waste m0ney--->Support criminals

OR

Legalize---->save money---> educate

OR

Legalize----->waste money----->still supporting criminals b/c illegal weed is cheaper than legal weed---->no education of any sort comes from legalizing weed

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It doesn't cost very much money to grow your own bud. If it were legal I would 100% grow my own rather than waste several hundred $/month paying someone else to take that risk.

Also, I think the guy was inferring that we could/should spend the money saved by not arresting pot smokers/dealers on drug-education. Clearly nobody thinks the mere act of legalizing weed would somehow educate people about anything...

I'm sorry for going off-topic here but...

It's nice to see so many people in 2011 STILL know nothing about marijuana and STILL insist that it's evil and that legalizing it would ruin the world. That propaganda the pharmaceuticals/governments ran in the 1940-1970s sure has worked well.

Also lol @ legalize -> waste money. You know hemp? That evil thing that "makes drugs"? It's also a multi-billion dollar plant and its uses are more versatile than ANY other plant in the WORLD. It's also easy to grow. You add weed tax on top of this and the money saved on the "war on drugs" and you wouldn't waste any money, you'd increase your income by billions of dollars each year.

Legalizing weed = supporting criminals.. seriously? You do know criminalizing it puts a TON of money into criminals' pockets right? Legalizing weed means they won't get a dime from smokers anymore. This means less crime all over the place. This ban on weed is the SAME thing as alcohol prohibition and we all know how that went. Loads of people accept and even smoke marijuana, and we'll buy it from whoever sells it, and in my case it means giving money to a guy that is probably connected to some crime organization.

If I were you, I'd be a lot more concerned as to why my government allows tobacco to be sold legally, even tho we all know it's full of chemical **** and can make you die earlier. Weed has never caused a single death and can even help cure people, but it's illegal. Please think about this.

i dunno, i have nothing against weed/smoked a fair bit myself but there are proven studies showing continued use causes lasting effects on the brain. ofc that should'nt inherently make it illegal, but its hardly like taking a vitamin tablet.

Gary Johnson is in favor of legalizing.

the propaganda has worked wonders...its not like there are scientific studies that shows it destroys your memory and other brain receptors...I doubt that the entire US population has aids, cancer, chronic pain, glaucoma, or multiple sclerosis; medical weed is legal in Michigan and I know people who abuse the system, plus the government keeps regulating more and more things; from lunches to how our vehicles are built, pretty soon we'll be the USSRA

Never knew why so many people had something against you. Now I do. It's problem, k bye.

Going out on a limb here but 1. The American "obesity epidemic" and 2. Safety?

People smoke weed for the same reason they drink alcohol... you don't need to have cancer to like to get high. The fact that you give a **** whether or not I'm getting stoned is kinda creepy.

...and no, there are not study's showing marijuana "destroys your memory and other brain receptors".

/hijack I'll move along now

Guess he hasn't cashed in awhile huh?

THIS

It certainly hurts the people that choose to distribute more often than not. Just the unfortunate result of laws that make a substance that is less harmful than other legal substances illegal.

With the way end users are starting to fear punishment less with the easing of possession laws for recreational amounts, its driving demand up and only making that worse IMO. We have the end users trending towards better quality smoke at a premium price, which makes it a compelling business environment for those who.. you know.. like money.

But unfortunately the folks willing to do business in such environments aren't always the sharpest tools in the shed. From what it sounds like Al and Co. were the ones actually in the room doing the selling or at least openly making it known they were the ones behind it. You cant do that, eventually it will get around to the wrong people, i play against cops/da/lawyers/bible thumpers all the time. You cant be known as a seller AND have all the pot sitting in you and your son's house, presumably even being grown there.

- Tobacco is the second major cause of death in the world, responsible for roughly 5 million deaths each year. Legal.

- Alcohol abuse kills 100,000 people a year in the US. Legal.

- Marijuana kills 0. Illegal.

And please show me a study against weed that hasn't been funded by some big corporation. More and more studies are not only debunking a lot of old myths, they are also adding more scientific facts behind marijuana having beneficial effects on healthy humans.

Please read this page and then tell me if it makes you think any differently about the issue: http://www.theweedblog.com/top-10-ma...-never-funded/
Just a quick link i grabbed for you. There's hundreds of these online.

The man has a point here.

Faming weed illegally will be cheaper. No taxes, no insurance, no electricity bill.

how can you honestly think weed will be more expensive if it is legal?

If its legal we can just grow it for practically nothing. Marlboro already has patents in place for "Marlboro green" if it ever gets legalized. The reason why it costs so much is because its illegal. If legalized, I speculate the price of a pack of pre-rolled joints would be around ~10$ a pack.

Well we dont have a fully legal system anywhere in the US to use as an example, but in Arizona they now have Medical Marijuana delivery companies that sell for comparable prices to traditional means. They also have a wider variety you can choose from. I have a family member that has used one several times and they just walk in and set jars down on your counter and give you a run down on each strain, some are more costly than what you're used to and some aren't. The point is that once anybody can get a license to distribute who knows what competition will drive prices down to. Free market and all that jazz. Besides, who wants to continue operating illegally when you can go get a business license and not.

There are also proven studies proving those studies as horse ****.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinol

Hold on, I'm confused. So, in the multi-thousand year documented history of this plant there has never once been a single death attributed to it, anywhere, while its synthetic brother kills 4 people in a tiny sample of 17 drugs over an 8.5 year span?

Which drugs are bad, again?

On topic, there is no way to estimate dry weight from just a plant count..way too many other factors.

You just look at what makes up the cost of decent weed, electricity for one, criminals do not pay electricitybills.
Taxes, labor, insurance, security, criminals do not pay for those things.

The cost of producing legalized, high-grade marijuana has been estimated to be around $225/pound*. This is 1/10th of the cost of the current wholesale price of weed. And you're telling us that people will risk jail to save some expenses on a 90% profit margin industry? You sure?

Obviously, under legislation, that number would go down. But come on, it's not like they're producing meth out of chemical labs. I could start an extremely profitable weed grow-op in my basement and make 6 figures a year.


* http://www.rand.org/pubs/working_pap...RAND_WR764.pdf Page 21

Sure thing, so if u are running an illegal drug operation u dont pay the bills cause u're obv a criminal but somehow u won't get noticed by the goverment. Solid logic bro.

I forgot to add to my post.. If someone says they're outraged about people who might not pay taxes on their legalized weed production, I find it really sad. This slight "slip" in income in an otherwise MONSTER industry would never ever be noticed and no one would care. They'd probably be too busy enjoying the new schools and hospitals that weed would bring.

Legalizing weed would bring about a tiny percent of issues but, in the public's perception what should be more important and dangerous, are the real things out there. War, fraud, corruption, you name it it's going on. But no, instead, people are focusing all their energies on what they want us to think about instead. And by they I mean the corporations and banks that own the world.

Well, I can only talk about my own experience which seems to be different from what is described in this paper. They speak about 4 harvests a year which seems a waste really as you can get 6 harvests yearly. Like they say, you need to take this paper with a grain of salt.

Would it not be reasonable to assume that when you have a lot less overhead than a legitemate business that the profit margin would be bigger?

Now if those chemical companies would produce THC pills or something, then i'd believe they'd be cheaper.