The quality and necessity of the work done by CAP is extremely subjective simplicitus, and arguing about its merits here as though it is a black and white issue is a fool's errand.

The point is that from the only thing I can find which states where the AUFA money is going it appears it is all being donated to CAP in an effort to help with the "Enough" initiative started by CAP. My point was that this is not really made clear by the event organizers and it is also not made clear that all the money will go through CAP meaning that it is impossible to know how much is actually being utilized by the "Enough" program.

Also, when you are involving a charity with a distinct political agenda (regardless of which side of the aisle they favor) without making that well known to potential donors you are being either intentionally or ignorantly deceitful. Many individuals may be more than happy to donate their money to relief efforts in Africa. Many of those same individuals may also not want their money lining the pockets of former Clinton White House staffers actively pushing liberal agendas. In the end they should be well informed by the charity and able to make that decision based on their own beliefs.

Based on the link it looks like $.87 from each dollar goes to program expenses and the charity is rated 4 out of 4 stars. Ya, huge problem here. Lotta geniuses in this thread.

I knew they made Oceans 12 for a reason...

No, holyground is very confused. It's the unfortunate side effect of laypeople trying to understand accounting .

Here is the definition of Fundraising Efficiency from the website:

Fundraising Efficiency: The amount spent to raise $1 in charitable contributions. To calculate a charity's fundraising efficiency, we divide its fundraising expenses by the total contributions it receives.

So a basic example would be if you spent $50,000 on fundraising and raised $1,000,000 you would have a $0.05 Fundraising Efficiency (which would be very good).

$0.07 is very, very good. Also this has nothing to do with where the money goes (program versus administrative expenses) it's just a relation of how efficient your fundraising efforts are. You could be great at fundraising and still be a terrible charity.

thank you Mr Sanford for your eloquent explanation and knowing Admo he wants to help make sure that people in Darfur get direct help with basic needs
and like you stated:
"Many of those same individuals may also not want their money lining the pockets of former Clinton White House staffers actively pushing liberal agendas."

This thread needs more Johnny Hughes/ f* Johnny hughes imo

All we want to know is how much of what AUFA collects goes to the organizations you've mentioned.

Despite my bitching ITT (I have a couple of "top tier" friends at CAP), I have much respect for Admo and hope he is able to resolve the matter to his satisfaction, even if it means donating to another organization.

In general, I have some respect for Annie Duke, but the whole UB thing was handled very, very badly.

Will someone please make the Hunter photoshop from the old tv show. the perfect picture is found on imdb.com

would do it myself but don't have photoshop.

Overall rating (66.00)
Organizational Efficiency

Program Expenses 87.0%
Administrative Expenses 5.4%
Fundraising Expenses 7.4%
Fundraising Efficiency $0.07

I think you are reading it wrong. Of every dollar they raise, 87 cents is spent on programs.

5.4 cents goes to admin expenses.

7.4 cents is spent on fundraising (for every 7.4 cents spent, they raise a dollar).

They also earned a 4-star rating (excellent), the highest rating given.




PS: I see this has already been addressed.

update?

Update:

Except, in the case of the 180K salaries as cited, it's just Board of Director compensation. There's no job function involved in those positions except to meet quarterly or as charter requires and basically receive a briefing from the Chairman. This level of people sit on multiple boards as it allows the Board some PR being associated with certain names, and it allows the person to maintain a large income apart from employment. They are leveraging thier names and reputations as well as their body of work as an asset in their source of income. So its not like its their 40hour/week full time gig. Its a revenue stream.

There's nothing wrong with that, just trying to make it clearer.

if you rat on the parade of hope, youll be lucky to find your toenails. these guys are the roughest of all the charities.

For the record: has anyone actually talked to or heard from Admo since this story broke (and after his initial statement)? What's going on?

My latest email to Ante Up For Africa:

Awesome stuff Admo, thanks for keeping us updated. Anxious to hear how this all ends up shaking out.

Correcting some stuff from the beginning of this thread, I'll try to write more when there's time.


No, I'm not playing poker tournaments as my wife is delivering a baby. We are only twelve weeks along in a medium-to-high risk pregnancy. When there are hiccups, we freak out. Many thanks for all the phone calls, texts, PMs and well-wishes in this thread. I'll update once we're out of the rough.


No, I was never going to take the money and run. The amount donated was always going to be between 50-100%. For now we've decided on $60k. I'm not sure when I'll be able to get back to Las Vegas to pick up the winnings but we sent $11k to Ante Up For Africa last week.


No, I didn't say anything that was 'reported' in the 'Hunter' email, nor was I ever rude during the tournament. It was the most hilarious tournament I've ever played in. Floorpeople allowed all manner of hijinks, cocktails flowed freely, best friends Phil Gordon and Rafe Furst kept upping the cash bounties they placed on each other, and Nelly composed the awesome "Doooo Yooooou Wa-ant a Call?" song. Sample hand to give an idea of the tone of the tournament: Perry Friedman raises. John Juanda (who was shoving blind every other hand) re-ships him. Freidman tanks, "I don't know what to do." Juanda puts his cards right in front of Greg Mueller's face to allow Freidman to get a read off FBT's reaction. Freidman tanks again. Freidman shows his own cards to FBT to get a read on whether or not he should call. FBT gives Freidman a false tell inducing him to call, Freidman calls with AQ and loses to Juandas AK, gg Freidman.

And the staff was outstanding: standouts were hosts Don Cheadle and Joe Reitman, floormen Brooks, John, and tall gentleman whose name I can't remember, and dealers Sara, Amanda, and the dark-haired male dealer who repeatedly thanked me for giving back 5.5k in extra chips after the floorman tried to overpay me (twice) during color-up.


Yes, I've been a strong World Vision advocate since college.


No, I never called Johnny Hughes a liar. I insinuated that he was a blog spammer. He is.


Yes, Steve Ware has disappeared while still owing many people money.


No, I've never contacted Steven Ware's parents.


Yes, I have been to Lubbock, Texas.

So I'm confused...did you decide to donate $60K to AUFA? Or is that just a commitment you've made to donate it to some charity, to be determined at a later time?

You'd think with dumb luck, JH would accidentally choose the right side once or twice.

you should do your research before you play if its a big concern imo, just like people should do their research on the structure instead of freaking out once they've paid and are in. i was hoping this would be a lot more about sticking it to annoying in-your-face salesmanish ass pirates and less about charities and africa.

The 180k salaries are for people on the "Executive Committee" of the Center for American progress, which is comprised of:

John Podesta, President and Chief Executive Officer
Sarah Wartell, Executive VP
Laura Nichols, Senior Fellow
Jennifer Palmieri, Senior VP for Communications
Winnie Stachelberg, Senior VP for External Affairs

The compensation is for day-to-day work at the CAP, not cushy "board of directors" compensation.

just dropping in to say admo is the man

Hilarious huh?

So, did you meet Hunter or not?