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02-09-2018 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
LOL - yes i am reading, i didnt even know this thread existed until yesterday.
you started your reply with LOL.. Extremely professional. And then added nothing of value in the rest of your reply. Do you realize we are the customers and you are the service provider? Are you aware we are providing your income?

if you live in the USA and play online go to theppa dot org and email your representatives so we can have regulated online poker...Get off the bot cesspool...The incompetence of the ACR team has been brought up time and time again and not a thing has changed.

Last edited by 45bars; 02-09-2018 at 07:13 PM.
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02-09-2018 , 08:08 PM
I have also been told that xBlackjackx on ACR is allegedly one of 44bars friends banned on PS PT. Blackjack and 44bars often play in cash games together but no idea if anything is out of line.
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02-09-2018 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I have also been told that xBlackjackx on ACR is allegedly one of 44bars friends banned on PS PT. Blackjack and 44bars often play in cash games together but no idea if anything is out of line.


They were playng today at same tables on WPN.
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02-09-2018 , 08:52 PM
Right now actually...

How are their tournament stats? Do they play with each other?
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02-09-2018 , 09:01 PM
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02-09-2018 , 09:51 PM
Obviously some massive advantages for anyone allegedly team playing on an NLHE cash game table.

* Twice as much card removal info.

* If we call the team players A & B. When both are in the pot post flop and one flops the nuts or huge, the other one can help semi-slow play juice up the pot by flatting and giving others better pots odds.

* Consulting each other about reads.

* Pre flop usage of card removal an advantage too.

* Some other advantages too no doubt.

Card sharing/collusion in PLO cash is an even bigger scummy edge.
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02-09-2018 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I have also been told that xBlackjackx on ACR is allegedly one of 44bars friends banned on PS PT. Blackjack and 44bars often play in cash games together but no idea if anything is out of line.


Joey "Woodward" Ingram (both from Chicago, no less). Now we just need a Bernstein.
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02-10-2018 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 44bars
^ I just wont be commenting on this untill someone posts proof Im guilt or do any shady stuff at wpn, Im 100% innocent of anything I was accused by Joey but just to be explicit I only played PLO as a rec and I do not have a tracker for PLO, yet I track all my NL games obv. Regarding pokerstars.pt they just said they were revoking my playing privileges because someone could gain access to my account (their own words).
Here's a clue, you're "someone" in your attorney's statement.
Then likely other someone's would be allowed access again.
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02-10-2018 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Obviously some massive advantages for anyone allegedly team playing on an NLHE cash game table.

* Twice as much card removal info.

* If we call the team players A & B. When both are in the pot post flop and one flops the nuts or huge, the other one can help semi-slow play juice up the pot by flatting and giving others better pots odds.

* Consulting each other about reads.

* Pre flop usage of card removal an advantage too.

* Some other advantages too no doubt.

Card sharing/collusion in PLO cash is an even bigger scummy edge.

Basically if 2 player collude in NL and actually know what they are doing, its possible that no one on the table can actually win, even with a big american fish in there.

You get small but constant edge with knowing 4 holecards.

But the biggest edge is possible in MW pots, basically you can squeeze so so much ev out of mw pots if you know what you are doing.
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02-10-2018 , 06:30 AM
It sucks that there's no way to detect or police Skype collusion.

Imagine sitting at a live PLO table and 3 or 4 of the people at the table are texting each other their hole cards and exchanging reads.
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02-10-2018 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I have also been told that xBlackjackx on ACR is allegedly one of 44bars friends banned on PS PT. Blackjack and 44bars often play in cash games together but no idea if anything is out of line.
I've looked through my db and only found like 50 hands they played together, nothing seems out of line.

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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Obviously some massive advantages for anyone allegedly team playing on an NLHE cash game table.

* Twice as much card removal info.

* If we call the team players A & B. When both are in the pot post flop and one flops the nuts or huge, the other one can help semi-slow play juice up the pot by flatting and giving others better pots odds.

* Consulting each other about reads.

* Pre flop usage of card removal an advantage too.

* Some other advantages too no doubt.

Card sharing/collusion in PLO cash is an even bigger scummy edge.
Card sharing in NL should be easy to detect for WPN security, if latter is a thing.
It can be done by an individual as well, but you need a huge db, or you can break some rules and buy mined hands.
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02-10-2018 , 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by morilka
I've looked through my db and only found like 50 hands they played together, nothing seems out of line.


They were just 3-4 tabling together earlier today.
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02-10-2018 , 09:00 AM
https://gyazo.com/6f7ce636fc979f2071c71dbdf1683685

Check his village, Alcoentre is not that far away for Rio Maior (where according to Rodrigo Alexandre, aka Hustler-Odin lives)

And still 1 hour away from Tomar, city of 44bars and fazesse.

So many coincidences, they were gridning together again today...

https://gyazo.com/5a77b638e4dac495737269d88e7ef7f1

But "HEEEEEEY LOOKS BROS WE DONT CHEAT WE LOOSE POTS AGAINST EACH OTHER"

https://gyazo.com/d6ee0bda68e542d1b8246ea43095bb95

Disgusting as fk.
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02-10-2018 , 12:35 PM
surely all of these accts are at least temporarily frozen?
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02-10-2018 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
surely all of these accts are at least temporarily frozen?
They were playing today, check my previous post!
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02-10-2018 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
surely all of these accts are at least temporarily frozen?
Probably not enough evidence for ACR...we will get the "It's being investigated" standard reply. they won't even let us do their job for them.
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02-10-2018 , 10:55 PM
Hand #
1121263444
1121264023

44Bars's Aces get owned back to back. hahah
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02-11-2018 , 01:17 AM
portuguese and spanish cheaters, a cancer in every game it seems.
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02-11-2018 , 02:58 AM
I think this guy 44bars is very good just as some pokerstars players that always make final tables like €urop€an. Dunno if he colludes, using bots or something else but without proof he benefits of the benefit of doubt. I always see the same players on pokerstars doing final tables. We can never know what programs they have on their PC. I dont think it's possible to catch someone cheating in poker.
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02-11-2018 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Feelsbadman
I think this guy 44bars is very good just as some pokerstars players that always make final tables like €urop€an. Dunno if he colludes, using bots or something else but without proof he benefits of the benefit of doubt. I always see the same players on pokerstars doing final tables. We can never know what programs they have on their PC. I dont think it's possible to catch someone cheating in poker.
WTF are you on about? Are you that naive or just incredibly stupid??

As an Aussie with limited options I was going to deposit on to acr but after all this has come to light I'll be staying away.
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02-11-2018 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by justAnobody
WTF are you on about? Are you that naive or just incredibly stupid??

As an Aussie with limited options I was going to deposit on to acr but after all this has come to light I'll be staying away.
Hey i ain't saying 44bars is legit, but you can't win so easly without having some serious poker knowledge. For example if i would colluding i will still be a loser. Still dont think he has any bots, probably multiple accounts . Anyway there is 1 thing i dont understand. Why dont they implement pokerstars security? Is expensive or what?
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02-11-2018 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
It sucks that there's no way to detect or police Skype collusion.

Imagine sitting at a live PLO table and 3 or 4 of the people at the table are texting each other their hole cards and exchanging reads.
Off topic but happens a lot. In Spain (Marbella) I've been at 5/10 & 10/25 tables countless times playing against ppl who were blatantly all whatsapping each other - floor dgaf because they are local regs and likely on the take from said regs and although I have played there for years I would be considered a tourist and they ignore my requests - they are all terrible anyway. This isnt limited to PLO, its NL too. Lots of Spaniards came to London to play when online poker was banned there (or ringfenced) and they all got banned pretty quickly from all of the casinos because of all sorts of shenanigans. Not saying its limited to Spanish or Portugese players at all, but there is so much cheating from those countries for some reason.
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02-11-2018 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by VerdadeiraTruth
https://gyazo.com/6f7ce636fc979f2071c71dbdf1683685

Check his village, Alcoentre is not that far away for Rio Maior (where according to Rodrigo Alexandre, aka Hustler-Odin lives)

And still 1 hour away from Tomar, city of 44bars and fazesse.

So many coincidences, they were gridning together again today...

https://gyazo.com/5a77b638e4dac495737269d88e7ef7f1

But "HEEEEEEY LOOKS BROS WE DONT CHEAT WE LOOSE POTS AGAINST EACH OTHER"

https://gyazo.com/d6ee0bda68e542d1b8246ea43095bb95

Disgusting as fk.
The other obvious point is once you make decent money in Portugal why not move to Malta or UK (like many top Spanish regs have done) so you can play on more sites with bigger buy-ins.

Unless of course you derive more profit from collusion.

It's a legitimate point when you consider how much money 44bars has won.
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02-11-2018 , 09:09 PM
surprise surprise....also, on a related note, im about 90% sure theres a bot at my table

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02-11-2018 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dan_polk
surprise surprise....also, on a related note, im about 90% sure theres a bot at my table

the cash grab from house players has been motioned into full swing!
Acr is trying to grab as much as they can before everyone jumps ship!
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