Who is more credible. The one that formally replies once (with actual composure) and PMs you telling you to stop or his lawyer is going to **** you over, or the one that goes to the public thread, goes ape**** and threatens with a lawyer?

Point being, this is not the way to stop people from slandering.

Thread delivers

lol, what are you doing, get on some tournaments, play all the hands and win now!

I guess if you come in with a presumption of guilt, it's easy to see everything sounding woirse and worse.

I agree the stars things is fishy, but stars did give him back his money, so not sure they found him cheating either. He associated with some people who got busted etc... I'm not claiming he's an angel and I have no idea. I just know that I have seen no proof that 44bars did anything wrong at ACR, and yet he has been found guilty by the mob until he can prove he is innocent. How does one prove that?

He offered to send Joey some hand histories or something didn't he? Would that be proof enough for you or the others?

So far he is guilty of being accused by a popular poster/poker player.

The proof doesn't seem to be important to a lot of people.

I do agree with most of what you said, but we don’t actually know why he was banned from stars and if he actually received refunds, that’s what he said but how do we know if it’s truthful or not

I guess we should just assume everyone is honest and let the sites patrol everyone

I mean no one cheats at online poker and bots aren’t a problem and sites detect them regularly right....

I agree. I only know he was banned when he admitted it so that could be a lie as well?

I don't think we shouldn't investigate, I just think we should have something to show before we start naming names and dusting off the pitchforks.

You interpreted everything like you would like you to be and you're spinning it like it pleases you...

- He won X amount of MTTs, sunnrunned, whatever. So what ?

- I know few ppl banned for no good reason on few networks, I mean it is sketchy but that isn't solid proof of anything

- It wasnt family, it was a 'brother', for whom Joey himself said that it was his friend actually. U know, a bro.

- He plays NLHE (not PLO) as a regular up to 2k or w/e as few regs that play with him on ACR mentioned ITT (Mixgrill/somebody else). 4/5 ppl playing those stakes are scripters. Not sure where he said that he was rec, maybe rec in PLO.

- Stop posting about this pls

By the way this is NVG, we're allowed to gossip here, so let's.

I don't care who is guilty or not, I am here for entertainment. I want the lawyer to comment in this thread ASAP.

lol... that's how you reverse engineer.. find what you commonly see the most and replicate it.. it makes perfect sense when people say their 80% hands only win 30% of the time so you play your 20% hands and win 70% of the time.

Prove his innocence of stfu

This is nvg bro

And why you care so much ? He your buddy ?

I dont care at all actually, just pointing out that your way of thinking is really bad.

earlier you said you were part of an ACR run stable. prove it or stfu

heres what i am referring to

Prove I was part of the stable?

Ok...what’s the importance ?

yes, prove you were part of a stable owned/operated by WPN staff.

I absolutely believe it is happening, along with real time card removal collusion, selective connection interruptions during tournaments, and all sorts of nonsense.

I want you to lay down proof of it so everyone can see what they are getting in to, and you seem like you might have that proof.

Ghosting isn't proof of anything also, it happens all around the world.

yeah, im not concerned about ghosting here. it is the WPN owned stable operating on WPN that is key.

Well the stable is here on 2+2 or atleast it was when I was a part of it it’s called winning poker stable ? If I remember correctly, they would top up acct every morning and dep and withdraw...I couldn’t do anything myself with it...when I would profit it was sent to another skin where I could withdraw from

I didn’t really care at the time about the deatails I was just a grinder only worrying about profits, but yeah I can also confirm they shared databases to get more info about regs

Can’t remember to much else as I said before was like 3-4 yrs ago

I don’t play for living anymore just punt for fun

I’m not sure if it’s run by the actual site or they just have close relationship or what tho

if you have a link i'll check it out. I was under the impression WPN was operating its own stable on its own WPN sites, and that you were part of it. I would say that is an important piece of information for the community to have.

Whatever this weird feud is, take it somewhere else, please.


Edit: Agreeing 100% with Bobo here, I went ahead and deleted the posts that Bobo is referring to above.

bahahaha outrageous prop bets, the "i'll share the hand histories but I'm too lazy," hiring a lawyer, loss of privilege on pstars, 200K in 400 games, the major d swanging with a pic on two FT's and....

not a peep from an ACR rep..

The thread that keeps on givin. But ya it's legit nothing to see here.

Can someone explain what playing privileges revoked means?

He can log in and observe but not play? Even play money ?

I don't always get my 2+2 account banned but when I do it's by marxist demagogues.

By "banned" you mean "lost privilege to post comments and view threads"?