Heaters happen, that isn't a very good argument for something shady going on. Anyone grinding high stakes cash is going to be magnitudes better than 99% of the MTT population outside of ICM stuff. Not sure posting this kind of stuff is helping the situation.

As far as Fedor goes, he was talking about CreateMyOwnEnergy saying that. According to his Twitter, he's a little obsessed with PrimedMind and #Postivity #Believeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Someone page Kavilla AKA Merginhoeson24's, this is the thread he was made for. Guy is nutso, but got bashed by all of the Merge regs for trying to out the ridiculous ticket account fiasco where a shady Merge skin (can't remember the name) was giving tickets to their friends/horses and didn't have the funds to actually back them up. Not only that, a lot of the alleged ticket accounts were known for ghosting and collusion and weren't shy to hide it. I was in a few skype groups with them back then and it was sickening the things they were doing. Lots of these guys still play on WPN, a few are even streamers on twitch.

ICM/shortstack but yes, agree 100%

Ok maybe u guys are right maybe he’s just on a heater....I feel something is off tho

I mean we know he got banned from Stars he won’t tell his sn

After playing 40 games he goes on super heater wins like all top boss tournies claiming to be fish on a heater but plays all the highest cash avail but says is terrible and tells Joey he’s a scripter\bum hunter but not super user or bot when was never accused of and now hiring a lawyer Bc he says won’t get action...well if he’s terrible he should thank Joey for costing him action as it will save him money

Maybe he actually was banned from Stars for illegal software or something else then made up this bogus story to not sound like a criminal

ill play devils advocate. I sign up for ACR and go on a raging sun run. like 200k in a week. i havent withdrawn much of it yet, and now someone is accusing me of cheating. what if they lock my account and i lose the money? the site is a little sketchy, if the public opinion is im a cheater, who is gonna stick up for me when ACR drains my account?

we need hand histories, or session footage to know the truth. even then, who knows

Well if you had just been banned from PokerStars by far the biggest and most trusted site then yeah it would set of some alarms...wondering if u cheated again no ?

And he said in his first post he would post the hhs but was to lazy...I’m 100% certain we will never see them

I didn't say something wasn't off with him, I said assuming something is off because he went on a heater over a short sample is incorrect logic for assuming something is off. For whatever reason when I ship something big it's always followed by more big scores. 1 good win boosts your confidence, which makes you play better. Add in a little run good and good things can happen in a very short time.

I agree with your post but I also believe in once a cheater always a cheater

And Joey made a video saying he thought maybe he collided then his brother sends Joey msgs saying he plays poker to support his family and doesn’t use bots or super user even though was never accused of it

It’s not the hard to prove his innocence post the hhs of some of the games in question instead he threatens with lawyers and gets family members to say he’s a good family man lol and admits to being banned from PokerStars for cheating but says it’s not his fault he only let other ppl use his acct...

I'd say the trust hasn't been there since AmayaStars has been a thing. There is no trust when a company screws over endless players on the VIP deals. No bueno........

As bad as it’s been what’s a more trustworthy poker site ?

"I don't always plays the highest stakes, but when I do I play them as a Recreational"

PokerStars game security and PokerStars trying to pinch every penny they can isn't the same thing. Stars has at least tried to fix some of the issues. Requiring regs to send in vids of them playing, scanning your system for programs, going to a global lobby where you can't seat select(not on .com yet but coming).

Rofl, thread got good quick. Prop bets, portuguese wunder kids and whatnot. Next plot twist is prob that 44bars turns out to be girah?

+million

What are the highest stakes bots are breaking even/winning post-RB? Do bots play straight up, or are they programmed to share hole cards with other bots in the table from same network? Do bot makers care about this sort of ethics? (Botting is bit gray area IMO since it's not something that gives an "unfair" advantage, as opposed to hole card sharing which handicaps the game severely in one's favor.)

This, to me, is what is required as a minimum to maintain the integrity of the game. Poker rooms need to be afraid that they will lose business if it becomes known that their games are riddled with cheaters and or collusion.

This also is why I think all sites should offer anonymous tables on all or most games (same perhaps ultra high stakes cash). It makes collusion difficult (but not impossible), and cash bumhunting basically impossible. Better for fun players, worse for regs, but better for everyone overall.

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Yes to all this!

Probably the only way to stop it is to start criminally charging ppl...if you steal a million dollars from a bank you get life in jail most likely but if u steal online poker u may or may not be banned and even if u do u can just make another account and do it again lol

+1!

He wasn't banned. His playing privileges were revoked. Check your privilege.

This thread has gone full tin foil,can we make a facts only or responsible cliffs only to keep updated.Because I just accused my mailman of being a bot.

He wasn't banned... He's just not allowed to play there anymore.

the ethics of online poker is top notch. "me and my backer share accts." "my backer had about 3 or 4 accts." "my backer gave us the notes on all of the regs, stats, how to beat them"

****in fish

Guilty until proven innocent.

Proof = ?????

I think some people need to take a step back and ask themselves what convinced them that 44bars was cheating.

The only thing I saw was he had some supsicious activity on stars and Chicago Joey mentioned his name as shady.

I guess I just need some actual proof rather than just grabbing pitchforks. I'm surprised that seems to be putting me in the minority, or maybe I'm not.

You're not alone. I mean, not a single clue is being shown about 44bars being whatever and his reputation is being raped here. He sunnrunned 3 tournaments and he is superuser ? TOO MUCH SUPERUSERS OUT THERE.

If I were him, I would pbb give some evidence of me being innocent only because my reputation is being given such a hard hit without it, but this whole thing isn't right at all. Joey has too powerful voice in all this, and he/70% of posters are being very paranoid and have read one too many conspiracy theorie books

that is one way to look at it and have to rid yourself of any accusations. But, if he is indeed 100% innocent, personally, I feel like it would be easy to shrug off the haters and just go on about my biz and keep wrecking dudes, ignoring all of this noise.

This is
a) damaging his rep
b) killing his action

Not sure about keeping calm part about it when u're innocent.

Because nothing screams innocent as "not being able to play" at a particular site, getting a lawyer and dickswinging with ridiculous propbet proposals.

If you're especially good in one side thinking and being close minded, for sure.

I mean, not giving him benefit of the doubt is what is biggest problem in your way of thinking.