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02-05-2018 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
This was 44bars first post seems all bs now....I think I’m more convinced now then ever something fishy is going on
well he's following up that story, i dont see what fishy thing could you get from this
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02-05-2018 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
why not? im guessing because they wouldn't tell you the results, but we'd still see accounts if they got deleted? Or maybe you mean the site operators dont care so its us against them? im confused? The answer im getting is its us against them and every man for himself? Or did yo puss out so they don't wind up feeding you to the gators?

They probably do want to feed me to the gators.

I believe this is a privacy issue. We might notice if some of the active bots or colluders were banned but would never know if anyone was caught doing more. Essentially saying there is no way anything related to possible super using will ever be 100% confirmed. They will never say and we can most likely, never prove it.
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02-05-2018 , 08:45 PM
the winning scenario is somebody bigger stepping in for us, like 2+2. if this is whats happening are they gonna keep a subfurom and ad revenue? hw is this good for anybody in the industry, well real people i mean, sure its good for bot operators and ad revenue collectors short term. so joey got ran over same as i did it appears nice.
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02-05-2018 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
why not? im guessing because they wouldn't tell you the results, but we'd still see accounts if they got deleted? Or maybe you mean the site operators dont care so its us against them? im confused? The answer im getting is its us against them and every man for himself? Or did yo puss out so they don't wind up feeding you to the gators?

seemed more concerned about you making the video cuz itd hurt traffic? why else would he be concerned?
The Site operators probably own the accounts. They own tons of accounts for MTT's. At one time I had two accounts... My coach had like 3-4 or more.
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02-05-2018 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
They probably do want to feed me to the gators.

I believe this is a privacy issue. We might notice if some of the active bots or colluders were banned but would never know if anyone was caught doing more. Essentially saying there is no way anything related to possible super using will ever be 100% confirmed. They will never say and we can most likely, never prove it.
thanks for the replay man and everything you do and have done, sorry for the stress here. I just don't get it though, I guess the part im confused about is how can we prove it if we have the hhs? Even if they dont admit it how UB did we as a community can still establish it as a fact no?
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02-05-2018 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by red_Eyes_Bot
The Site operators probably own the accounts. They own tons of accounts for MTT's. At one time I had two accounts... My coach had like 3-4 or more.
ya i hear ya there, I've had backers give me accounts to play on too I know it happens. What was the name there was a huge loss like 3/4 milly, some merge skin maybe "red flush" iirc giving away mtt tickets n $, skin lost so much almost busted the network iirc
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02-05-2018 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
the winning scenario is somebody bigger stepping in for us, like 2+2. if this is whats happening are they gonna keep a subfurom and ad revenue? hw is this good for anybody in the industry, well real people i mean, sure its good for bot operators and ad revenue collectors short term. so joey got ran over same as i did it appears nice.
They why do they have the winning team add in the stacking forum.
If you can own accounts from other contries and people can directly deposit and withdraw from your account. This means they are the owners of the site.
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02-05-2018 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
ya i hear ya there, I've had backers give me accounts to play on too I know it happens. What was the name there was a huge loss like 3/4 milly, some merge skin maybe "red flush" iirc giving away mtt tickets n $, skin lost so much almost busted the network iirc
OK I guess I am not saying anything new. LOL poker world.

Ok Bobo you free to ban me since my other account is banned "for multy accounting" which was actually a cheap trick to move me from the politics debates.

Last edited by red_Eyes_Bot; 02-05-2018 at 08:53 PM. Reason: I will be following this thread, it seems fun :) logging out to not come back again. I stoped playing poker, BITCONNECT!!!
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02-05-2018 , 08:53 PM
GG Phil Nagy, GG ACR

If 2+2 is going to “protect” the community from mindset/life coaches it’d be reasonable to re-examine their relationship with WPN on the same grounds.

+1 to golfbum. More convinced now than ever

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02-05-2018 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nomalice
well he's following up that story, i dont see what fishy thing could you get from this
You don’t think it’s odd he shipped like 10 hs tounies in. Week or 2 says doesn’t play tournies just ran hot then turns out he says he’s backed by fedor??

Something isn’t truthful
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02-05-2018 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by red_Eyes_Bot
They why do they have the winning team add in the stacking forum.
If you can own accounts from other contries and people can directly deposit and withdraw from your account. This means they are the owners of the site.
ya unfortunately i agree and i can confirm this, 2+2 aren't friends of players they're doin same as everyone else, lookin out for themselves. So where do we as players go from here if 2+2 is facilitating this kind of thing to line their own pockets?
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02-05-2018 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
the winning scenario is somebody bigger stepping in for us, like 2+2. if this is whats happening are they gonna keep a subfurom and ad revenue? hw is this good for anybody in the industry, well real people i mean, sure its good for bot operators and ad revenue collectors short term. so joey got ran over same as i did it appears nice.

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Originally Posted by big bwalz
thanks for the replay man and everything you do and have done, sorry for the stress here. I just don't get it though, I guess the part im confused about is how can we prove it if we have the hhs? Even if they dont admit it how UB did we as a community can still establish it as a fact no?
This isn't good for anyone in the industry outside the players who think they have a chance to win. They already are drawing pretty dead to begin with when the conditions are fair.

I've been deep diving into the AB/UB and PS PLO bots to better understand exactly what went down and how they were found out. I'm hoping to get hands played on the site to people with a deeper knowledge of analyzation to see what they can find.

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Originally Posted by red_Eyes_Bot
The Site operators probably own the accounts. They own tons of accounts for MTT's. At one time I had two accounts... My coach had like 3-4 or more.
As crazy as this sounds, my contact in the bot world tells me this is allegedly occurring (house bots) on the Asian & Indian poker sites. It all sounds like insane conspiracy to me but I've heard it from others before. He said he wasn't sure if this was going on with ACR or PP. I've talked with him off and on for quite some time now and everytime I do, I get freaked out by what he tells me. I tried to never worry about these type of issues and put all my focus on getting as good as I can at playing. I figured that I had to work that much harder in order to overcome all the obstacles in the way. If I spent energy worrying about this type of ****, I would lose my mind and ability to win.

I also have known of people playing multiple accounts at once in the past with setups I couldn't believe would work.
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02-05-2018 , 09:02 PM
I used to be part of the winning poker stable I can also add one of coaches asks for remote control for final tables + deep runs...I personally never did and left shortly after ..was prob 3 yrs ago now
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02-05-2018 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
ya unfortunately i agree and i can confirm this, 2+2 aren't friends of players they're doin same as everyone else, lookin out for themselves. So where do we as players go from here if 2+2 is facilitating this kind of thing to line their own pockets?

I think that 2p2 is one of the most friendly places to the players that exist in the poker world. After many hours of conversation with Mason, I think he cares about the players more than a large majority of people I've talked to in the poker world. They've had the opportunity to shift their business model many times over the years and make much much more $$$ than they make now.
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02-05-2018 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
I used to be part of the winning poker stable I can also add one of coaches asks for remote control for final tables + deep runs...I personally never did and left shortly after ..was prob 3 yrs ago now
or what about the italian thng that was goin a few yrs back on "dollaro", they'd have "agents" thatd let bar patrons in italy play on laptops that were manager accounts and also send 100s of euros to horses like me to stack em. rng was a bit questionable lol but.. ya that was another industry business model that worked for a while
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02-05-2018 , 09:09 PM
Bot operator on the pod please. Even if audio only or dark room. Wanna hear the state of industry.
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02-05-2018 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
You don’t think it’s odd he shipped like 10 hs tounies in. Week or 2 says doesn’t play tournies just ran hot then turns out he says he’s backed by fedor??

Something isn’t truthful
where on heavens earth did u saw that he was backed by fedor ?
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02-05-2018 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
I think that 2p2 is one of the most friendly places to the players that exist in the poker world. After many hours of conversation with Mason, I think he cares about the players more than a large majority of people I've talked to in the poker world. They've had the opportunity to shift their business model many times over the years and make much much more $$$ than they make now.
that makes me feel better and thanks for sharing, I've not made it nearly as far in the industry as you have and have had a different life experience obv. Side note i watched your video "is poker ruining my life" and I sat down my mother (im 37) and made her watch it with me less than 12 hrs later, that was a good one much appreciated.
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02-05-2018 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nomalice
well he's following up that story, i dont see what fishy thing could you get from this
Joey said it somewhere and asked fedor and fedor said he was a customer whatever that means
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02-05-2018 , 09:57 PM
This bet he offer is so lol tho so he fly to Vegas load up tables break even or win or lose for few hours then says look I’m real

Then fly home turn god mode on or whatever he is doing and win ��
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02-05-2018 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick_AA
Bot operator on the pod please. Even if audio only or dark room. Wanna hear the state of industry.
Yes pls! Do this
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02-05-2018 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 44bars
Im still waiting for my lawyers response on this because this accusations are serious af
Lol at needing a lawyer for this.
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02-05-2018 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hAmThEkIlLeR
How much does a law firm bill for a team of lawyers to scower YouTube and 2+2 message board posts?
What the market will bear ? Why ?
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02-05-2018 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyrochaos
Did he check his privilege before it was revoked?
lol
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02-05-2018 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyrochaos
Did he check his privilege before it was revoked?
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