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2020 WSOP Champ Stripped Of His Title (by deciding to hand out that title in a different event) 2020 WSOP Champ Stripped Of His Title (by deciding to hand out that title in a different event)

11-17-2020 , 12:58 PM
This seems like false advertising by the WSOP. Not sure why Dnegs is being drawn into this though, as far as I am aware he is an ambassador for GG and not the WSOP. Sure GG hosted the WSOP, but this would be like a spokesman for the Rio commenting on the main event in 2019. They host the tournament, but they do not run it and their words mean very little.

If the WSOP called it the Main Event, then it is definitely shady dealings on their part.
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11-17-2020 , 02:35 PM
Dumb question, and I'm only half-joking here, but did Hellmuth ever say anything about the validity of the 2020 COVID WSOP bracelets, etc? I know he has sounded off before about whether or not certain WSOP events count toward the totals.

This year's version of the series has been far more unusual than anything that has taken place in his run. Seems like a perfect opportunity for him to call for a Ford Frick-style asterisk on any bracelet won in 2020 (although we also know he would have felt differently had he won one.)
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11-17-2020 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
AMERICA!!!
If it's not on ESPN then who gives a crap, right?
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11-17-2020 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Dumb question, and I'm only half-joking here, but did Hellmuth ever say anything about the validity of the 2020 COVID WSOP bracelets, etc? I know he has sounded off before about whether or not certain WSOP events count toward the totals.

This year's version of the series has been far more unusual than anything that has taken place in his run. Seems like a perfect opportunity for him to call for a Ford Frick-style asterisk on any bracelet won in 2020 (although we also know he would have felt differently had he won one.)
I could be missing a few Hellmuth rants but I believe he has been fairly silent about it ever since he won his WSOPE bracelet back in 2012. I think up to that point he didn't want those to count.
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11-17-2020 , 03:53 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...vent_champions

It doesn’t have 2020 listed so it will presumably be the winner of this event.
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11-17-2020 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...vent_champions

It doesn’t have 2020 listed so it will presumably be the winner of this event.
Or maybe it will end up with Stoyan further down on the page. That decision isn’t to to the WSOP.
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11-17-2020 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by freedom 35
I could be missing a few Hellmuth rants but I believe he has been fairly silent about it ever since he won his WSOPE bracelet back in 2012. I think up to that point he didn't want those to count.
I interviewed him in 2013 and he said he wants to form a player's council to decide which bracelets count and which ones don't. I'm not paraphrasing. I had a hard time keeping a straight face while he ranted about this.

This was at WSOPE where DNegs won a small field high roller, and shortly after Daniel had won another bracelet in Australia.

Unfortunately BLUFF took everything down for some reason, but I know a lot of people on 2p2 saw it.
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11-17-2020 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Or maybe it will end up with Stoyan further down on the page. That decision isn’t to to the WSOP.

WSOP: Stoyan who?

You’re going to have ESPN/WSOP relentlessly market this tournament as the ME and the winner as the champ.

They knew exactly what they were doing when they announced it.
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11-18-2020 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyLond
It seems like he should get some legal advice and see if he has grounds for a lawsuit.
Ahhh, a lawsuit. Surprised it took this long to be mentioned. It’s quite clear where you’re from.
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11-18-2020 , 10:54 AM
As a minion in this debate I (and a few others I know) would never have paid $5000 to enter a tournament if I didn’t believe it was the ‘Main Event’
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11-18-2020 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DownandUnder
As a minion in this debate I (and a few others I know) would never have paid $5000 to enter a tournament if I didn’t believe it was the ‘Main Event’
+1

I would have never entered the event in the first place, let alone re-enter. Absolute garbage.
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11-18-2020 , 02:46 PM
Sounds like a case for Rudy Giuliani to take on . No worries.
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11-18-2020 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Ahhh, a lawsuit. Surprised it took this long to be mentioned. It’s quite clear where you’re from.
Land of the Lawsuit. You don't even need that compelling of a case, just threatening it may garnish a settlement so they don't have to pay a legal team to fight it out in court.
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11-19-2020 , 10:19 AM
Neither of these is a "true" or "real" WSOP main event. It's online. The WSOP main event is a 10K LIVE ONLY freezeout. There isn't really anything to see here. Move on.
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11-19-2020 , 03:40 PM
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11-19-2020 , 04:36 PM
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11-19-2020 , 09:35 PM
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But this is the real one, promises our World Series of Poker source. “Yes, this is absolutely THE Main Event. The winner of this event will be enshrined alongside poker’s legends of the past. In no time, he or she will be slapping backs with the likes of Chris Moneymaker, Doyle Brunson and Stoyan Madanzhiev… er, I mean Robert Varkonyi.”
I'm not sure why, but Varkonyi is still an instant punch line for me when it comes to poker gags. I actually have no idea where he rates among all-time Main Event winners, too. Is he better or worse than Jamie Gold? Hal Fowler? Honestly don't know. But if someone wrote that up with Jerry Yang instead of Varkonyi, it wouldn't be as funny to me. Again, I can't explain it.
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11-19-2020 , 10:37 PM
They should have 4 or 5 online WSOP MEs. It is good for marketing.
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11-19-2020 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
They should have 4 or 5 online WSOP MEs. It is good for marketing.
Pretty sure GG poker has planned to do that til they get exposed and go broke.

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11-20-2020 , 01:34 AM
Every online series, or live series for that matter, has a "Main Event", a Main Event of that particular series.

Was it clearly stated that the $5K Rebuy Main Event of the GGPoker Online Series was to be considered equivalent to the traditional $10K Freezeout Main Event of the WSOP?

Honestly, I'd be even more pissed about WSOP making a $5K Rebuy Event (3x rebuys if I remember) somehow equivalent to the traditional Annual $10K Freezout "Main Event" of the WSOP.
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11-20-2020 , 02:32 AM
In the Jeff Platt/Kaki stream of the Doug/Daniel HU match today. Jeff said that during that event months ago, while he was streaming each days events and commentating, he kept using the term "Main Event" when talking about the $5k.

He said WSOP contacted him and told him not to use that term, as they didn't want to confuse it with the real Main Event.
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11-20-2020 , 02:32 AM
Jeff Platt admitted today that while hosting for GG he constantly referred to the tournament as the Main Event (as in the real thing) but that he was mistaken.

It's clear they've stuffed up or are now being dishonest. Just come out and say we want to have another big tourney that, since it will be a 10k and will have some live play, is more like the genuine ME.
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11-20-2020 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Petey Jaye
+1

I would have never entered the event in the first place, let alone re-enter. Absolute garbage.
Seems results oriented, you surely wouldn't be complaining had you finished 2nd and won an extra million or so because the prize pool was so pumped up because of all the extra people entering for "Banner in the RIO" equity.

Stoyan is the big "victim", but he maybe made an extra 2 million or so?

And I think there was always the open possibility that the Rio was going to do to something in late fall or winter 2020 where the 10K final table (or maybe even the whole thing)was going to be played. I believe it was mentioned in a press release by them.
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11-20-2020 , 05:37 PM
I mean I think its pretty comical that Stoyan (or anyone else who would have won) really thinks they would be held in the same regard as someone who played the live main event in Vegas and won. It just wasn't going to happen. Be happy with the money and the fact you are the 5K GG main event winner and move on to the next one. The same applies for whoever wins this 10K main event in December. Sure the WSOP will market them as "the champ" but there will always be an * next to it and thats fine. Thats just part of life with the pandemic. If the winner of the HU live portion of the event is from the smaller of the two tournament player pools the other side is gonna complain about how its BS and they didn't have to navigate the same type of field the other side did.
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11-20-2020 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
In the Jeff Platt/Kaki stream of the Doug/Daniel HU match today. Jeff said that during that event months ago, while he was streaming each days events and commentating, he kept using the term "Main Event" when talking about the $5k.

He said WSOP contacted him and told him not to use that term, as they didn't want to confuse it with the real Main Event.
This makes sense to me, as it would be ridiculous to have a $5K Rebuy event somehow be equivalent to the annual $10K Freezout WSOP Main Event.

Surely it was a communications error from either WSOP and/or GGPoker. While the $5K Rebuy may have been the "Main Event" of GGPoker's WSOP Online Series, WSOP communications should've made it clear that it does NOT replace the annual $10K Freezeout which is more commonly known as the "WSOP Main Event".
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