Fijis claim that the poker community owes him comes of as conceited, but he did do a lot, and thats worth something. Assuming Admo confirms the debt is repaid the only one who has a right to remain pissed at him is Admo himself imo.

I wouldn't go that far sir

oh and any others he owed, obv

Steve,

Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You STOLE from people. Your name was rightfully tarnished. You are a compulsive gambler and need to seek treatment. Grow up and accept responsibility for your actions.

Really weird that Admo wouldn't come in this thread and say that he's been paid back.

this, and how can someone have any more clear of a double standard for themselves, steve is real conceded and has a huge sense of entitlement for some reason. obv he did a lot with UB but if he waqsnt shady he would talk about what hes gunna do and move forward ratyher than relying on his reputation in the past whcih is rightfully tarnished. The poker community owes you something!!!!! LOL!!!!!

He didn't really do any work. Just acted as secretary. And also, he's just too slimy to let go. Making fake accounts to try to dupe people into paying off his debt because the community owes him. Being insulted by the guy who he ripped off reacting in what could possibly be the only manner that gets the debt paid. Just a dirty individual and people should be aware before dealing with him in the future.

(this is written assuming what was said by CF is true and ppl got paid back, it makes no logical sense for CF to lie)

Cornell,

Your apology sucked. Mainly because you didnt apologise. I dunno if you plan on reinserting yourself into poker in the future or if you are entirely quitting and drawing a line under this part of your life - my guess is the former. As with ZJ who had a pretty good rep before being caught multiaccounting most people forgave him for what he did long before those who hated him for how he apologised and explained himself. Anyway, you dont seem to be a dude who make many solid life decisions so i can see how you let another one fly over your head.

Everyone not admo or the other investors,

Put the torches away. I know we all want to burn some kid at the stake for being a witch/scammer but life doesnt work like that. This the third thread and they all had around 500 posts each, i have no ****ing clue why you thought commenting more than once was required (or even after the first couple of days why anyone was saying anything who wasnt admo and the others who got burnt) and what the hell you guys were debating for about what is/isnt legal i have no idea.

A lot of you still want to hate on him for what he did - i understand why, but the fact is his crime was being an idiot who seems to have a gambling problem. If anything i more pity him than hate him.

I guess what im saying is that you should forgive but not forget. Clearly he is branded and his reputation is ****ed, but the idea he is any more than someone who made a series of mistakes compounded upon previous mistakes in a moment of insanity is silly. Now what he has written wont help matters as he really does come across as a dick and i get why he will pick up some more hate for another couple hundred posts, but this is the point where you all need to move on with your lives, seriously.

Admo and the other investors,

Good to hear you got paid and i get why you will still be pissed off for some time to come and rightfully so, it was your money that was stuck in limbo for months. I also hope this is a learning experience not just for yourselves but for others (and i say that with no insult or holier than thou attitude). This isnt the first time someone has gotten rolled for a large sum of money in the sphere of gambling, and it certainly wont be the last.

As I speculated earlier, maybe Admo's lawyer told him to mum up.

If that was the case, I would think he would also have him remove the website.

lofl @ whoever deleted my post but left the name calling trolls alone

IF this is true, then congratulations and glad to hear you met your obligations. It speaks volumes. Just think, if you went public from day one, and explained that you made a mistake and then you were in processs of settling things, then this would all be blown over before. Im sure its your age in how you handled it, but hopefully this has been a huge lesson for you.

This argument sounds a lot like when a cop gets busted for dealing the very drugs hes trying to get off the streets thinking that he should get credit for all the times he did the right thing. Unforunately, it doesnt work that way. You could have saved baby whales from extinction, but, when you screw someone the way did, good deads dont always matter. Its never correct to gamble with others peoples money unless its expressly agreed to as a stake. Period! No exceptions.

Ofcourse we appreciate what you "have done" (UB), but also dont appreciate what you "have done" (ADMO). You gotta take it, good and bad. Glad you settled this (IF this is confirmed by ADMO). IF this is more BS then, I feel very sorry for you. Take your lumps, and continue on your "righteous" path.

+1

WOW what Chutzpah Steven

( meaning "insolence", "audacity",and"impertinence.")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chutzpah

I guess this means the love affair between 2+2 and CF is over

Admo if you cant confirm that the debt to you has been satisfied due to legal considerations. Taking the site down would be defacto confirmation.

Nice job I guess. When's your book coming out?

Book? Im waiting for the movie of the week.


Coming, this fall, "Others Peoples Money", staring Steve Ware, aka Cornell Fiji. A story of a young college grad, betting it all, taking risks to make it to the top. Just one problem. He is doing it with OTHERS PEOPLES MONEY. Stay tuned....

So why is the countdown on Admo's site still up and running if he's been paid back?

either:

CF paid back all the debts and admo has not publicly declared it, nor taken down the SWIAT website, or

CF came back just to lie about paying it all back in order to.. discredit admo? possibly win back a few members of 2p2 instead of having 100% of 2p2 against him? build enough goodwill to solicit more stakes in order to actually pay admo back?

latter is obviously more likely but its still a weird situation going on here

Will your mom forward your mail to you when you are behind bars?

Just kidding.

Paging Admo.

Paging Admo.

Please report to this thread.

CF is telling the truth +130
CF is lying -180

If the first one, then perhaps Admo (as I don't know either of them personally BTW), is getting a little 'joy juice' in making Steve Squirm a little longer, since Steve kind of made Admo squirm, by going 'dark' so to speak, and thus then made Admo worry if he'd get his money (and thus made Admo have to (also) endure the worries from his Wife about it as well).

If Steve has indeed paid Admo back, he's headed in the right direction, but he also needs to take responsiblity for his actions, even it is as simple as saying (not so much to us, but to Admo and to CF's investors, as Steve shouldn't give a flying fig what we all think, because we were not the people he wronged),

"I Steve Ware screwed up, I paid the price for it, which was justifiably so (the knocks on his Rep and the stress that went with that, and the loss of his Mod status here), and I'm sorry."

That IMO, will go a long way towards going down the road to repairing his (now damaged) Rep in the Poker community.

Now, if Steve has Paid Admo back, and since Admo did make such a public big deal (as he should of, as I'm pretty sure Admo felt it was the only option left to him, since Steve went dark on him) about the whole thing, then (IMO) it's Admo responsiblity to publically respond back to Steve's post and say one way or the other if Steve has indeed paid him back.

admo doesn't seem like one to hold a vendetta and not corroborate the repayment. if he hasn't said anything, i trust that CF isn't telling the whole story.

on the other hand, CF coming back after this long to tell a lie which can be shot down in 30 seconds makes no sense either.

Does anyone know if Admo knows that CF has posted in this thread saying that CF paid Admo back? Maybe Admo has responded back either way, because he doesn't know (because it's a 29 page thread at this time) Steve posted.

From the smugness of CF's post I doubt he has learned a lesson in all this sadly. It reaks of entitlement and justifications rather than the humbleness and apologies it should contain. One day in the future his narcissism may lead to an even more serious situation involving real tough guys and not internet tough guys, or maybe even jail, where the good ol boys will take turns with him and make his bunghole match his hair.