I don't know the guy, but at this point I'd say it's highly likely there is no book, nor was there ever a book.

This means anyone you have ever given a check to can do this. All that info in on your checks.

Holy crap! I have written out checks to complete strangers!!!

Seems very arrogant to even suggest it - Like he's in a fantasy world - Steven Ware has some serious mental and emotion problems that have come to light now that his fantasy world has collided with the real world

Gees - Don't you guys have any common sense!!!!!!! Writing checks to complete strangers??? WHAT THE **** WERE YOU THINKING!!??!!

Have you ever actually gotten cash from a bank teller or even used checks before?

Reminds me of another Cornell grad I know.

Read this thread and his explanations of how he played this hand. Then tell me if you believe anything he says. And would you buy his poker book?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=257008

I cannot believe I am posting in this abomination, but FWIW all somebody needs to get money out of your bank account is your checking account # and your bank's routing #. It's called an ACH. CincyLady is 100% correct. Yes, anybody you've written a check to can steal money from your account. Yes, it's insane. I'm dealing with this situation right now and I can tell you is that A) it's YOUR responsibility to catch a fraudulent withdrawl and B) time is of the essence (in other words, if a lot of time passes after the fraud before you catch it you will have a harder time dealing with it).

I'll add a caveat to this: it's entirely possible that some banks have instituted security measures to plug this loophole, but I can tell you as a fact that many, if not most, remain vulnerable.

CF is NOT an underdog. Also, he is not a favorite. Ergo, he must be a coinflip.

Wouldn't they need the name and address on the account?

Yeah LOL. Its like saying anyone who I have ever given my credit card number to could use it. LOL

Actually, based on what I've been told (by a banker friend I know), that is true. Anyone you write a personal check to, and can use the information to take money out of your account. It didn't used to be this way (back before direct deposit and before the internet got big (as you had to present the check to the bank, but even then, there was the problem of forged checks (aka that movie Leo D was in about the check forger guy))), but with the internet and e-checks and such, banks if you have the money in your account, and the thief has your account number and routing number, they can (per my friend) take money out of your account.

Not saying you won't get it back eventually, but you then have to go through the hastles with the bank of proving it wasn't you who did it in the first place.

In the meantime, you have (other) checks that might bounce, and bounced check fee's to deal with.

pretty sure that anything CF says should be assumed to be untrue unless proved otherwise at this point.

Yep, and this is why I seldom (if ever) write checks. I tend to deal in money orders, cashier checks, and cash or credit cards when paying for something.

I never read a book on how not to play poker

This is why it is important to open a savings account and/or money market account with our bank as well. Stick the majority of your money in your savings and only keep minimal funds in your checking.

I cannot believe I am posting in this abomination...

The two of you are implying...
That someone can wire funds FROM my account...
Assuming they know the account number and wire routing info.

Nonsense. Not at any responsible bank in a developed country.

The ONLY way I ** personally ** can wire MY funds FROM my account...
Is to appear IN PERSON at my bank...
And fill out an online form with a bank teller.

A fraudster would have to appear IN PERSON at my bank...
And produce the DEBIT CARD plus PASSWORD for my account.

Please bring back the amateur legal beagles. You know... the ones who "remember" random facts from their "law courses" in "college"... but are poker grinders "for a living" today. At least they are entertaining.

Even if you are right about this Cincylady which technically it sounds like you are. You are by far the most annoying in this thread and should really post less. This is my 2nd post in this thread IIRC. Have a nice day.

Edit:

This is why I said technically correct because it would have to be an elaborate scheme done by two shady entities the one who tried to wire or cash a check and the people who accepted it. With plenty of identification verification and all that jazz. Please get me off this thread I have no self control wire me 30k ahahahahahhaha.

OY VEY MY HEAD HURTS MAKE IT STOP

how long before admo can make 30k selling advertisements on swiat.com?

Here's how we resolve this.

I offer $5,000 per beating of each poster who either (a) hijacks this thread to talk about the health system in Canada, (b) says that money can't be taken from his bank account without his fingerprints, or (c) talks about admo's loan to CF.

CF accepts this offer, and within I'd say about 90 minutes has plenty of money to wire to admo.

Most checks I have ever used have both my name and address on them...