[Mod Note: Excised from the Antifa thread]
[Further Mod Note: Alternative Title: My Healthcare brings all the boys to the yard (and they're like -- it's better)]

That might be madlibs but setting it aside for the moment, do me/us/yourself a favor and take this political compass test:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

Here's me just now:



My x-axis stays the same but my y-axis fluctuates depending on my mood.

For reference:

Yay - you are more authoritarian than me.

I took the Meyers Briggs the other day in a philosophical mood and got the exact opposite of what I normally get but this one is pretty consistent.
(It wasn't mb, boxes are made to be fit into)

That is clever if intentional.

Narrator: it wasn't intentional.

Yeah, that's what I meant by "more 'authoritarian'" the other day. It doesn't mean I'm filling the gulags with enemies of the state.

Yeah, it's all good comrade. (I squeak into that category - almost a class traitor.) Not everyone wants to sail away to a distant shore and live like an ape man.

I am in the green, but I am in the class traitor part of it if that makes you feel better.

Heh, this was my range mockup that quickly ran out of space:



I think most people will have a range depending on what side of the bed they wake up on. My y-axis really does fluctuate wildly.

This is like BBV, garphs or gtfo.

Also, it's not that I'd feel better, but, I will admit it's somewhat of a trap. I was genuinely curious, but there's no result that you'd derive that would make your posting not ridiculous. In general but also specifically the post I was replying to. If you're right-authoritarian then what the hell are you arguing about. If you're far quasi-libertarian-left like then really what the hell are you arguing about. And if you're, as you're saying, dime-a-dozen centristy South Park Republican/Libertarian then really, really what the hell are you arguing about. That's the hyperpriveleged, pro-status quo, "ruling" class apologetics stance.

Some of the questions in that test are stupid, and I wasn't even asked about the abolition of private education.

What's up with this question?

It's looking for a no from a liberal, but the literal (and moral) answer should be yes.

Aye, and this is great.

What makes you think he's been "allowed" to write the truth this time

Yeah, every test like this is gonna have stupid questions, that's the nature of the beast. I just picked the most well-known test. Though if my memory serves me it's improved since the last time I took it, a few years ago. Apparently they tinker with it.

It's looking for you to answer the question truthfully so it can plot your graph you paranoid lunatic.

You offering that up unprompted is a better political test than I could've ever conjured up.

A question about supporting public school education would have been awkward

I'm more Fly than 6ix or Tom.

Well, if it is a trap you got me.

Anyways, just because I subscribe to the argument the US progressive left is a fake left, doesn't mean that I view myself as a true leftist.

For the most part I live in the culture I was born into, and accept its mores, but that doesn't mean I can't question what is really going on. For whatever reason, it does bother me when people who claim to be "fighting the man" are really the ones propping him up and supporting him from what I can tell. But that doesn't mean I am going to join Black Bloc myself, and try to participate in a real insurrection.

"Those with the ability to pay should have access to higher standards of medical care."

This is a very good question and one of the reasons I'm a *center* leftist anarchist. I don't think anyone *should* have access to better medical care than anyone else, but more than that, I don't think anyone should have the right to stop anyone else from getting extra care. But I think there are way too many property rights enforced by society, so getting that wealth to buy extra care shouldn't be so easy. I dunno. Anyway it's a good question to tease apart some people in the left.

I put "disagree" to that one but not "strongly disagree".
I agree that questions like that are hard. I could see myself putting agree but it really shouldn't all be about money.
What questions like show though are more the futility of having some well thought out political ideology that hinges on all the trappings and features of the modern world.
Why does "money" even exist? Why can't people just help other people? You can take a idealist or realist position but it really doesn't matter.
But probably that difference between idealism and realism is just as important and helps also set out the divide between liberalism and conservatism--with the liberals obviously being more idealistic.

I take the view that we shouldn't ban it but an aim of universal healthcare should be to ensure that private health insurance has minimal, if any, health care benefit.

Pretty much the same, but there are questions of what is realistic in universal health care and then there are also questions about what "higher standards of medical care" would even mean. Does that mean paying for a private room? Does it mean getting cosmetic surgery?

But, something real simple could be like you "can" get your first colonoscopy as part of a regular physical at 50. Part of the reason for that is because it's what is good medical practice, but partly there are financial considerations for the whole system of care. But, say, someone just wants to pay to get one at 40. That person doesn't have to be rich to do that, just have different priorities. Barring them from doing that would be quite an overreach by society imo.

My view is similar - I don't think money should be able to buy better outcomes, but don't have a big issue with things like being able to get shorter wait times for non-time sensitive procedures.

Fundamentally though the most important thing is that everyone has access to a baseline level of care that includes regular day-to-day coverage, standard preventative medicine and the knowledge that a serious illness isn't going to ruin you financially.

And I ended up in almost exactly the same spot as microbet on that thing. I thought I would be a little further left and a little more authoritarian but still pretty close to expected.