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WI Supreme Court to hear trans woman who can't change name because of sex crime WI Supreme Court to hear trans woman who can't change name because of sex crime
View Poll Results: Should someone who is both transgender and a registered sex offender be able to change their na
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3 33.33%
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05-16-2021 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
No. Which rights should not to be forfeited is a matter of opinion and law.
Except that the law and trained legal opinion examined her case and denied her sex offending ass as they deemed her offence to be a forfeit of certain rights and freedoms the law abiding- very much including the law abiding trans community- don't forfeit due to the whole law abiding thing.


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Indeed principles first.
No.The rights of victims first. Their loss and the loss of their families supersede your subjective personal principals

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Within that the courts decide based on individual cases.
And they decided here.

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That's exactly how it works. The trouble with you approach is that ~all cases will not be studied 'objectively' by you me or anyone outside the court system and those involved.
Indeed. And the courts studied it objectively and after scrutinizing it they duly denied her rapey nonce ass her request due to her being a nonce.

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Beyond that yes of course you are quite right. I think there are some right that shouldn't be forfeited whatever the details of the case. Dont you?
Depends on the individual case, crime in general isn't uniform.


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Sure but they're part fo a coercive 'justice' system. Not taht that's relevant to the poitn about rights.
Or to this case unless you can specifically show coercion regarding her conviction.


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I'm not concidering the details of this case atall. It's pure vanity to think we are going to deal with a justice system by 'objectively' considerering ~0% of the cases. That is not a methodology. We have to have some principles and of course we do.
Again you study a case on its merits and if there's mitigating circumstances then the court should duly consider such cases. None were found here.
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05-16-2021 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Actually CV it is even better than problem solved.

Arguably she could hide in plain sight easier by being a transfemale while her birth cis male name is the one on the dangerous offender list.

People not paying too much attention might not make the connection the gender has changed and this is the same person.

Better to allow the transition and update the listing.
It is very obvious that sex offenders, including paedophiles and rapists, are seeking to adopt and exploit 'trans' status to get around the law, to conceal their criminal records and to carry on offending. Because they would, wouldn't they? That is one reason, and an important reason, why trans activists seek to place a taboo on 'deadnaming'. (Trans activism is an offshoot of Postmodern Queer Theory, which, ever since it was drawn up by Michel Foucault in France in the 1970s and restated by Judith Butler in the US in the 1990s, has aimed at the normalisation and legalisation of child sexual abuse. I am not making this up. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...isia-6t5sj7jvw)

Some sex offenders also play the 'trans' card to get placed in women's prisons, where they can carry on offending while inside, as seen in the Karen White case in the UK. ('Karen White' is actually a man called Stephen Wood, who is a vicious rapist and paedophile, and who sexually assaulted women prisoners while held on remand in a women's unit. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-45825838) The authorities have no business going along with any of this.
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05-16-2021 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
It is very obvious that sex offenders, including paedophiles and rapists, are seeking to adopt and exploit 'trans' status to get around the law, to conceal their criminal records and to carry on offending. Because they would, wouldn't they? That is one reason, and an important reason, why trans activists seek to place a taboo on 'deadnaming'. (Trans activism is an offshoot of Postmodern Queer Theory, which, ever since it was drawn up by Michel Foucault in France in the 1970s and restated by Judith Butler in the US in the 1990s, has aimed at the normalisation and legalisation of child sexual abuse. I am not making this up. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...isia-6t5sj7jvw)

Some sex offenders also play the 'trans' card to get placed in women's prisons, where they can carry on offending while inside, as seen in the Karen White case in the UK. ('Karen White' is actually a man called Stephen Wood, who is a vicious rapist and paedophile, and who sexually assaulted women prisoners while held on remand in a women's unit. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-45825838) The authorities have no business going along with any of this.
Just to be clear, your claim is that the trans movement, as a whole, wants people to refer to them by the current name rather than a former name because the movement, as a whole, has the aim of wanting to normalize and legalize child sexual abuse and not because they were prefer people to call them by the name they would prefer to go by?
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05-16-2021 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Except that the law and trained legal opinion examined her case and denied her sex offending ass as they deemed her offence to be a forfeit of certain rights and freedoms the law abiding- very much including the law abiding trans community- don't forfeit due to the whole law abiding thing.
Maybe so but that's not an 'except' to what I said.

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No.The rights of victims first. Their loss and the loss of their families supersede your subjective personal principals
If you think that then you must object to the usa 'justice' sysem as much as I do.

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And they decided here.
Of course

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Depends on the individual case, crime in general isn't uniform
Sure and courts decide within the parameters of the law. What that law should be is the stuff of politics.

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Or to this case unless you can specifically show coercion regarding her conviction.
I'm not even considering the specifics of this case.

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Again you study a case on its merits and if there's mitigating circumstances then the court should duly consider such cases. None were found here.
Only within the parameters of the law. That law includes rights for everybody and what it should be is still the stuff of politics.
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