Lol @ making this leap

El Paso Shooter's Manifesto Contains a Dangerous Message about Climate Change
This one is from The Week and once again it's the media pushing this message. This one with a prediction.

Just so everyone here understands, you think he drove 10 hours to El Paso to target a WalMart because of climate change?

When I say "once again it's the media pushing this message" that means "no I do not take this article at face-value".

That was kind of a yes-or-no question that was put to you.

It was no.

Here is one from The Intercept
The El Paso Shooter Embraced Ecofacism. We Can't Let the Far Right Co-opt the Environmental Struggle

Luckbox,

Is your thesis here that corporate mass media is trying to paint environmentalism as dangerous and fanatical because they want to keep destroying the Earth?

There isn't much of a thesis. That idea along with some others had come to me but that would be pretty facile I think. Mostly I'm in interested in documenting this ultimately (to me at least) bizarre ecofascism narrative as it seems to be emerging.
That's why I keep posting these because even though everyone (myself included) has had no idea this ecofascism is a thing and you all reject the notion that it could play some relevance, the media is treating it earnestly. And I understand why they should I suppose too--it is after all a part of the manifesto and makes for a story. But I find it all interesting.

Here is one from The Nation
After the El Paso Shooting the Choice is Green Socialism or Ecofascism
Definitely some interesting framing there. Ok socialism it is.

I wouldn't go as far as stigmatising but we should be very wary about supporting, encouraging or justifying people resorting to violence even when the anger is justified and the target considered deserving.

It's not generally the most reasonable and well-balanced people who pick up this message of hate and violence.

Agreed.

The minds behind political fringe movements who use violence as a theme or alludes to violence to attract support will be extremely happy when they see similar rhetoric used against them. It essentially validates their behavior. It will also drown out moderate political voices, giving their platform more political impact.

The same applies for groups that employ actual violence. If politically motivated violence happens in return, they're probably happy about that. I wouldn't be surprised if the leaders and influencers of white supremacist movements are absolutely ecstatic if an Islamist terror attack happens (and vice versa).

So his motivation for the attack was white supremacy, yes?

You're the expert there.

I never get tired of watching how these simple questions about what you believe completely break you.

Anger doesn’t need to be justified. It’s just an emotion. Simply generally associating anger with violence can be dangerously misleading . Stigmatizing. A stereotype about violence when the violence is rooted in fear rather than anger. And anger is sometimes a mask for pain. Such as the pain of feeling irrationally afraid day after day.

and I’m not suggesting bypassing anger to stigmatize fear. I’m saying a more complete account places fear as more pertinent influence than anger when is comes to what influences lead to violence.

I figured you would enjoy that.

Of course but same anger is justified - being extremely angry about the way ICE behaves is very justified. Being angry about immigration isn't justified.

Exactly, that's one of the key the points I make in opposing violence . We can be so angry and be justified in being so angry but it doesn't mean we tsupport violence . When we're kids we lash out but as we get older we learn to channel even our justified anger into something productive at opposing the cause of that justified anger. Sometimes it's very hard to find anything productive that produced fast results and we can get very frustrated about it.

Ok. I'm not disagreeing with that, "Fear is the key to our soul" but it's besides the points I've been making.

You can take it a step further talk about self-esteem, fear is right, but fear is also stigmatized by males, and is not as precise (IMO) and I personally think insecurity is a better term than fear. Insecurity is rooted in self-esteem as well.

Not a genuine question.

https://news.yahoo.com/heres-the-dat...er&soc_trk=tw#

ETA self identifies as leftist. They killed 800+.

The GRAPO were leftist and killed about 80.

After Attack on Norway Mosque, Body Found at Home Tied To Assailant
8chan has been down for days since cloudfare booted them after El Paso. It is still down and was down yesterday.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9052106.html
Independent has him posting to 4chan. One of those chans anyways. It doesn't matter. They are all bad.