****ing nits itt seriously. Clearly any attempt at clean oratory needs 5 million caveats.

My post was pure satire so your reaction is pretty hilarious

My post was deadly serious

If you're that bad of a poster that you poe's law yourself that seems like a you problem.

Cmon Tom, I thought you'd decided humour was ok.

Historical context is rather important to understanding why people have differing reactions to "white pride." I feel like you ought to be able to understand that. It doesn't really work to reduce every judgement to some kind of a-historical abstract logic problem. That's not to say that it's not inconceivable for there to be some point at which minority expressions of solidarity (black pride and the like) could become socially problematic, but if you want to know why everyone view "white pride" differently then the answer isn't cognitive dissonance, it's history. At some other time, in some other place, it may make more sense to view them equivalently. But probably not here and now.

Also, relevant to the post you were responding to, it's probably worth pointing out that specifically "black pride" is much closer in practice to slighted's preference for expressions of pride based in ethncity (e.g. Irish pride). Again in historical context, "black" in the US is much closer to an ethnic group with a specific shared history -- African Americans -- than a descriptor of skin color.

If you guys stop now I may not delete all the fish posts.

It doesn't matter if he's able to understand it. He doesn't want to, so he can own the libs.

Well, in fairness to myself I was responding to this specific claim.

"just gtfo with your pride in simply your skin color and calling it culture."

Clearly, the situation is not as black and white (pun intended) as Slighted is making it out to be. I also find it a bit ironic that he is making a general statement that having pride in skin color is inappropriate; when the general rule is actually it is perfectly acceptable, and pride in "white" skin color being inappropriate is the exception to the rule.

Personally, I find any pride in membership of a group of non related individuals based on skin pigmentation to be bigoted and bizarre; but in real life I generally play by the rules of the game and nod my head in affirmation anytime anyone who isn't white shows pride in their skin pigmentation, and shake my head in disapproval when anyone who is white does so.

i was specifically talking about white skin color pride being ridiculous. pretty obviously based on the context of my post.

latinx community pride being labeled as "brown pride" is an association of a few different nations from the same area coming together under opression.

african-american community pride being labeled as "black pride" is an association of a few different nations from the same areas coming together under opression..

"white pride" is an association of a bunch of people from nations all across the world not centrally located nor sharing similar "cultures" coming together to oppress others and insist on their superiority based on skin color..

White has supremacy mentality to be proud of, which is a struggle. Everyone else has mere pride, but white is made from supremacy. Not just pride, one pride to rule them all. If only they stopped at superficial differences, yet no- white made a culture out of their supremacy mentality and then everyone else deemed not white got a inferior culture from white, so long a white’s maintain their scheme. Once white abandons supremacy mentality, what’s left? A bunch of apparently different folks

Good thing the whole culture talk = racism argument was beaten back so that people can get to all the important topics like white pride and white supremacy.

Can’t even talk about white supremacist culture without some culture-baiter jumping in and doubting that’s what’s actually happening. Who is supposed to act in charge of talking about racism and culture anyway?

Just going to preface this post by saying that I'm a Christian. That we're all made in the image of God absolutely settles the case when it comes to racism. No one should treat someone else worse because of how they look or sound.

shouldn't you not be judging them at all, so you should have no negative feelings opinions or reactions.. isn't that a thing for people that start off by portraying their Christianity..

You might be responding to the part of my post that I deleted. I've been kind of antisocial so I guess I didn't feel it appropriate or right to keep it in there. The other part of my post was about culture and unless I'm mistaken I stated something along the lines of it being appropriate to have positive or negative feelings, opinions, or reactions to a culture depending on what it exhibits. Might take some heat for this but I guess I'm of the opinion that if a culture isn't godly then it isn't right to have a positive attitude towards it. I guess this could possibly change if it was moving towards godliness or had the potential to move towards godliness. That being said I don't know if any culture is completely godly, I suspect not. If anyone wants I can make an attempt at defining what a godly culture is (or attempts, if I'm not that successful the first time I guess).

You should tell that to the Southern Baptist Convention.

What a weird ****ing thing to get defensive about.


walkby: "All people are children of God, regardless of race."

Slighted: "Woah, dude! Seems super judgemental of you!"

I think Slighted may have been responding to something that I deleted from my post.

he deleted a part that i replied to and i didnt quote it. something about its fine for people to judge other cultures/ have negative feelings, opinions, and reactions to other cultures.

i dont want to turn this into a religious based argument.
everyone is entitled to their own form of christianity, but i generally take umbrage with people immediately calling themselves christians and then smehow contorting that in to them being allowed to judge people as less. if like you are saying all people are children of God, then all people are equal.

eta- im not saying walkby did this, because he didnt express a direct judgement against any cultures, other than that less godly comment.

What I wrote was we're all made in the image of God, not that we're all God's children. That might be a hard thing to read - if you want to learn more I can PM you a link to a page that explains more, or post it here if a mod approves. That being said I believe I'm saved by grace, I don't deserve it.

I might not be doing a good job of displaying God's love in my posts.

Romans 5:8 (KJV) - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Honestly might have had trouble believing that verse as I posted it (or might have had trouble believing it AND had trouble understanding the language of it), some people say He died for those who will be saved and others say He died for everyone (if I'm explaining that right and have it right). 1 John 2:2 kind of settles it, I guess (although I kind of struggle with the language of it).

I'll stop now unless anyone wants to continue this conversation (and I guess I'm still requesting to post that link).

God probably doesn't exist.

So?