I was the opposite. In my teens I totally believed UFOs were extraterrestrial. As the years progressed and I studied more and more with each new revelation turning out to be nothing, I eventually became sceptical of this. If- and it's a big mfng if- this all turns out to be true and Grusch isn't full of crap, then I'll quite happily say I was wrong as again, this would be by far the biggest event in history.
But so far I really think he's just a crank tbh. We'll just have to keep an eye on developments, I reckon.

Extraordinary interview with lawyer Daniel Sheehan just dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/live/wdpb95I...FO3inay0bV8bYS

Lays out the whole thing moreorless. Disclosure stuck on special interest groups that don't want to give up their precious cargo. Says they're going to force them to fess up or else they'll just release more and more whistleblowers until it's too late. Theory going around that the Disclosure Act was more of a clever ruse to unite Congress with the whistleblowers so that when it inevitably gets blocked they can all see who the sneaky rats are holding everything up. Very smart if so.

If it really does run as deep as they're saying people might end up more pissed off with these secret and self-appointed gatekeepers than they are with the so called 'ontological shock' of discovering alien life already exists on earth. It's beginning to look like a typical/corruption greed project.

Garry Nolan is a friend of Grusch's. All this is about as significant as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's conviction that the Cottingley Fairies were real, except that, to give that distinguished if occasionally deluded man his due, he wasn't deliberately conning people, unlike Grusch and Nolan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies

The girls who faked the Cottingley Fairies photos were in a very difficult position when Sir Arthur pronounced the photos genuine (which they very obviously aren't), because they couldn't tell the truth without humiliating a great national figure.

And how many Bills were written into law in the 1920s that explicitiy mention 'fairies' mate?

https://ryanknutson.substack.com/p/c...ien-spacecraft

Also, assuming everything has to correlate with our already unresolvable scientific model is itself a giant leap of expectation. Every single generation of humanity considers itself at the peak of understanding, and every generation is completely wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUrTsrhVce4

That's video released by the pentagon. The source there is ABC news. It's an f-18 tracking SOMETHING via their targeting pod.

Yeah probably a helium balloon or bird and the parallax effect makes it look faster. This vid was already covered itt

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...rusch-congress


tick tock

Wasn't the most recent hearing classified?

yep. Grusch's been briefing Congress behind closed doors this week, naming names and by all accounts going further than people anticipated. More public hearings are now being pushed for.

He's also believed to have written a soon to be published op-ed about how he was officially working on some kind of UAP space surveillance program prior to the role he quit to whistleblow. The plot thickens.. Seems to me like he was holding back more than we imagined at the hearing and now they have authority to hear what he has to say people aren't writing him off at all.

Well again I don't regard Grusch as valid so far due to his 1933 ufo crash claim which originates from a 1990s hoax. Thanks for the linked Guardian piece, I find Villaroell's research interesting so far and read her paper on it, I mentioned it earlier itt.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...94576522000480

Hey, + good look to 'em

But sifting for metamaterials in the fabric of the cosmos is a ludicrously expensive waste of energy if the ****ers down the road in Lockheed are sitting on hard evidence. Which is the claim.

WE know this:
The military industrial complex are pulling out all the stops to make us think this is real. That is fact. They probably don't want it out all at once, whether real or some giant joke. And they are constantly, provably lying one way or the other.

Until this is addressed as far as I'm concerned material science is deader that dodo. how can we claim any broad understanding of reality without recognising the most important data points? Like eating soup with a fork. We know that current material science IGNORES the spiritual world altogether and yet the vast majority of the planet report cosmic experiences. Why? We've devalued subjective experience to the point where subjective experience is now warping physical reaity itself, that's what's happened. And that's why it presents itself as 'the other'. It's not though. It's us. Or God. Or both. Kicking our own arse.

Reactions of Congress people as they leave the SCIF with Grusch this week:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i25twC-geDM

Some of those reactions are...surprising, I gotta say.

Welcome aboard.


The allegations that state actors have been murderously suppressing this information, are really quite serious when you think about it.

I think what's happened is they see Grusch sat there in a shirt and tie surrounded by aides who aren't kicking him out of the building and they're thinking... there is no way in hell this man is lying and torching his career and risking serious jail-time just to falsely accuse the MIC of violent conspiracy, all while getting this level of hospitality and respect from his peers.


And then they ask for names and he gives them out freely. And they think.... ****.... this is happening

I'm quite frankly flabbergasted one of them attached importance to "inter dimensional beings". I'd be interested in what the funding is going toward also.

Federal UFO investigator states there's no evidence of an Alien cover up

I find it funny that the US government can say

UFO's sorry we cant tell you
9/11 Sorry need to know basis
Assassination of JFK Nope classified

Fair to call all three psy-ops.

Yeah. I mean what else could they be...

They haven't actually done that. Your tinfoil hat may have a hole in it, making you vulnerable to them thar alien thought-implants.

only a moron would believe in conspiracies ,right?


https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/wiki/lopc

Depends on the conspiracy and evidence. So far, no credible evidence that the US gov are covering up proof of intelligent Alien life.

No, but we do know, for a fact, that they are up to something. Half of them are still employed

We know they (they, CIA, NSA) are technically funding this whole panto, at the exact same time as denying it (we're seeing a big push right now if anyone is paying attention).


Now, this could all be explained, right? Consensus theory is a funding drive. That they as organisations benefit from all this hoo ha somehow. But here's the issue. That's bullshit. There's no way that makes sense with the manner in which things have played out. On the contrary. Half of disclosure efforts pertain to exposing overspent tax payers money. This is NEGATIVE heat. You don't want your sponsor scrutinising your books for errors for obvious reasons. That is literally the worst outcome.



So it is kind of a phillosophical error, in my opinon, to keep ascribing some bonkers 4d master financing plan driving all the behaviour we're seeing. If this was a funding drive they would keep it below the radar like everything else. Scrutiny for supposedly invisible organisations = disaster.

This is just logic. Quid pro quo. What is their modus? If you can't explain this then all the hoax accusations aren't worth the neurons they were conceived with.

What type of "credible evidence" will be acceptable for you to believe we're not the only intelligent life form in the universe bc I'm sure any type of evidence presented to people like yourself will be accused of being faked, made up, doctored, edited or photo shopped and the testimony of credible people including top military whistle blowers will all be called liars anyway, does that sound about right?