Nah. It's just you being dense here. I'm talking about the current wave of UFO stuff, and when you bring up something from 1969, that's called whataboutism.
Like you get that's 52 years ago and is irrelevant here?
Here was my post:
And then you go off about something from 1969. But UFO events from 1969 are irrelevant here. It's not germane to anything I said.

And again Lucky why not simply TELL him what SPECIFICALLY is the propaganda. 'Write it', 'quote it' rather then telling people it is 'clear' to you as the oracle and they simply are not smart enough to see it.

Time and again this is your M.O. "Something" is clear but you won't say what but question why others cannot see it.

JUST SAY WHAT IT IS and stop answering with a question asking 'why can't you see it?'

What is the propaganda.

And no, I have been nothing but constituent quoting my singular post over and over.

As CV tries to determine what you are saying is 'different' when you won't explain he thinks you mean the change in term from UFO to UAP's.

I think you are referring to the simple change in policy as the 'difference' something that is explained easily by the most mundane of policy changes once they realized it is 'out' anyway and thus trying to keep it 'secret' is doing nothing productive.

But again I, like CV know you won't say.

You are actively playing the CTer game when you are stonewalled and others won't buy your BS and you feel trapped in that any deeper answer derails you. So you spin, spin, spin.

It would be hilarious for someone to go back and count all the times Lucky has said something like this. That he has an explanation and MIGHT get to it at some point.

And with all the word salad spewed he simply cannot take the time to ever actually address those questions instead.

His reason, ...'I am too busy providing spin, to take the time to provide some substance'.

FLOL.

Barack Obama just said something *very* interesting about UFOs
CNN article on Obama's comments the other day.

Here's Obama:

"What is true, and I'm actually being serious here, is that there are, there's footage and records of objects in the skies, that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is."

Interesting, right?

Obama's admission that there are, in fact "footage and records of objects in the skies, that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory" is in keeping with a broader acknowledgment by official arms of the government -- after decades of denial! -- that UFOs are real. (Side note: Believing UFOs are real does not require believing in aliens; UFOs are simply unidentified flying objects. There is no assumption they contain other life forms.)

Like everyone wants to get bogged down in the nitty-gritty details and when we're looking at this, it's the broad strokes that are important. The nitty gritty details here are the "side note"-- that UFOs doesn't mean aliens, or that Obama is now a private citizen, or that CNN is trash, or something from 1969-- but none of that matters.

Have you dropped from your thesis that what is going on currently "the current wave of UFO stuff" is DIFFERENT than what happened in the past?

Because if you have not dropped that then CV's reply with "Past stuff" is 100% f*cking relevant to reply with as there is no other way to test your thesis without looking at past stuff.

If you have dropped that it is DIFFERENT then what are we debating?

Cuepee:
When you read this below, what does it mean to you?:

Obama's admission that there are, in fact "footage and records of objects in the skies, that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory" is in keeping with a broader acknowledgment by official arms of the government -- after decades of denial! -- that UFOs are real

Does it matter that it's coming from CNN and Obama as opposed to Washoe on 2p2?
Like if I see something like this myself, do I actually need to go back to the past to "test my thesis"?

Now Cuepee,
Aren't you yourself arguing that something is actually different as a result of a change in policy or did you forget that?

Like right here, it looks like you're arguing that things have changed. Are you not?

Fair enough, however when I post do not think it will have any impact on you whatsoever. I don't debunk you the way I do because I think you will change. People like you need to be debunked so others (if they happen to read any interaction) realize what you are as a human. You, and what you think does not actually matter in the equation.

You lie about everything. Most see through you, but there are some people who may not see you for what you are (one exists in this thread) so for their benefit they need to see you in the proper context. I only speak for myself, and I assume others have reasons why they interact with you that differ from mine, but I always assumed that both of us literally do not care about the other in any sense of the word, including what the other says (other than for entertainment values in a few instances).

I think you guys should relax for a minute...

Inhale... for 5..

Exhaleee 5 seconds..

Feel better now?

Most people in the thread are actually generally relaxed. I was surprised when Lucky got into petty insults because he usually does not break his character, though it can happen.

The one who needs to relax is you. You read this stuff and dive in head first and charge without really thinking it out too carefully, and you have done that with a few other things as well.

Don't overthink this thread. Lucky does not give a damn about anyone else, and in the end no one talking to him gives a damn about him. He knows what he is and does not care. Others know what he is and in the end probably also do not care for other reasons.

People like you are the ones that get captured by stuff like this at times, and people like Lucky at times, so you are the one that really should take a lot of breaths and take it slow.

Mostly I just resent being called a liar, and especially the idea of Cuepee citing your posts as evidence of that. It's pure insanity there really.
But what do you think I am exactly?

You are a fairly standard conspiracy person who has enough experience to avoid the traps of lesser ones (like the Qderps that talked about specific dates).

You have worked on your craft over the years to constantly have an "answer" for everything, even when your answers never answer anything. You answer most questions with questions. You deflect and re-direct all the time. You never commit to anything that tangible. You are a very experienced conspiracy addict.

You are your own best (and pretty much only) reference and you praise yourself a lot with your "insights." You regard others beneath you, either that they cannot see/understand your vision of the world, or they are too dumb and get distracted by "fake" conspiracies (like aliens are real when you know its all a psy op for yadda yadda).

You do not play well with others, in fact you do not play with others at all. You are generally comfortable with yourself and your views even when no one else seems to get you and your special vision you believe you possess. You will say once in a while that you are humble or may not know something, but in the end you believe you do know whats going on.

You do lie all the time even if you believe some of it. It is literally all lies, which is why I point it out.

There you go. You ask a direct question and here was a direct, detailed answer. That is something you pretty much never do.

I think CV might have pretty much nailed it. Although I am not sure to what % Lucky believes this. He said he doesnt believe it. So I am inclined to think he doesnt believe 100% of it. Maybe less than half. Maybe nothing at all.


In essence thats what Q followers believe, no?

There might be some truth to it. I dive in too fast sometimes. I do find this thread entertaining and funny. I dont know lucky. To me lucky is the funny guy with the ufos, who gets a hard time. Because in essence he might even be right in some points. There might be some UFO oldschoolers who have seen it all. To me this stuff is new. UFOs was for the crazies. This pentagon stuff is kinda new imo. Maybe even the general attitude towards ufos and the media.

UFOs is a topic he can be funny on, because it is UFOs. You may think differently if you ask him his thoughts on less funny topics, though he is experienced enough to not answer those questions on these forums in a direct manner.

I mean Monteroy pretty hates everything that he thinks I believe in and everything that he thinks I stand for-- things like truth, objectivity, and a non-slavish devotion to mainstream narratives. But try to not let his gaslighting affect you and deal with me on your own terms please.

Nah, you do not believe in truth. You believe in your psy op narratives, and anyone who does not follow your beliefs are children beneath you (as you have said).

You are literally the guy who talks to the clouds on the street corner, except you have years and years and years of obsessive experience to perfect your craft to avoid the "LOL look at the crazy guy" traps. You apply it in a forum that tolerates it because you were buddies with some of the mods long ago in a gaming forum, as you would be banned from most non conspiracyderp forums long ago, just as many of the lesser ones that were here like the flat Earther or that toxic "Covid is a hoax" Kelvis that got booted.

Monte,
What do you think about this post here that I'm still waiting for a Cuepee to respond to?
Do you think it wins the argument about whether anything has changed vis-a-vis UFO narratives?
What in this thread do you think I've lied about the most?

Im as objective as it gets.

So time travel and warp speed is possible in 1000 years huh?

time travel, worm holes, stargates, knock yourself out

All of that stuff is just woo woo

I answered your questions with very direct answers, which you are now trying to re-direct and distract with your routine of asking more "what do you think" questions.

I get that you do these routines out of muscle memory and you cannot stop it, even if you you have some semblance of self awareness. You are a creature of habit.

Still, to show you how it is done, I will answer one of your questions with a direct answer. As to which thread you have lied in the most, I would assume it is your personal thread as you have had the most posts in it and talked about a variety of topics, so just by math that appears to be the correct answer. I cannot say that I have an actual count of how many lies you have told in each thread, but the above seems a logical approach to directly answering your question.

Now that I have directly answered multiple questions of yours, feel free to do the same for others who have asked you some that you have so far avoided. No need for you to answer this with "which questions have I avoided?" - though if you have to out of habit I understand. You are what you are in the end, and this interaction is to show that to people like washoe who can be tempted by "fun" people like you at times.

Monte,
Who looks worse do you think: someone who theorizes that not all might be on the up-and-up with the government's UFO roll-out, or someone who goes all out to attack that person?

I think the person in this thread who constantly answers questions with questions or uses further questions to avoid direct answers that he asked for before (that he did not like the answers to) is the one who looks worse, which of course is why I answer your questions with direct answers and then point out what you do so others can see it as it happens. You are a creature of habit in the end, so you can't avoid it, but it still needs multiple iterations for the more gullible out there to see people like you for what they are in this world.

There you go - yet another very direct answer.

To add to it - your UFO stuff is literally a who cares whateverburger. Its UFOs. As I have mentioned many times - go nuts with UFOs. Go nuts with Lizard People. Go nuts with Bigfoot. Go nuts with the moon landing. However, there is a whole list of other topics where you going nuts and sharing your beliefs would be quite a bit less entertaining, and we both know that, so I am fine if you plan to stay in the confines of UFOs and other stuff of that nature, and if you promise to do that then I will happily play along with your whatever, because again - UFOs, Lizard People, Bigfoot etc.

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