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05-06-2022 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
And the only promise Biden keeps

Infrastructure

But yes its the GOP's fault, Trumps fault or the voters fault. Trump was horrible

Did Obama say the first thing he would do going into office was deliver on a law protecting abortion rights? Did he have the majority to do it? Did he do it?

Now imagine If Hilary did not call 1/2 the country deplorables, tell coal miners she would put them out of a job, Use social media in her campaign and not assume certain states she was gonna win and keep saying Trump has no chance.

She would have luckboxed her way into 3 liberal judges and we would be at 6-3 liberal weighted

Elections have consequences
how about u give time to biden (2 years vs 4 )?

And what excuses trump had to not execute his promises ?
he had control of everything (both chamber), in the best economy ever ( his own words ) and was spending like mad ( 7-8 trillions deficit)....
No covid crisis either for the first 3 years and no inflation ...

Now being intellectual honest as i know u are , u think biden as it easier and its comparable to trump ?

comparing the two trying to imply its equivalent makes no sense to me.
Trump was by far the worst president in the past 50 years in any categories u wish to uses.
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05-06-2022 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
comparing the two trying to imply its equivalent makes no sense to me.
lozen's comparisons don't need to make sense, neither in the comparisons themselves, nor in when and where he chooses to make them. If he sees an opportunity to rail against one of his 5-10 favourite targets, he'll take it; even if there really isn't an opportunity at all and he needs to use a Supreme Court discussion thread to make a "Obama didn't pass an abortion law" point and then stretch it to "Trump was bad but Biden is worse" point. It would have made far more sense to post in the "The Democratic Party... Is there really anything left, that is left?" thread, but perhaps he's concerned that would make his own politics a little more obvious.
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05-07-2022 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
how about u give time to biden (2 years vs 4 )?

And what excuses trump had to not execute his promises ?
he had control of everything (both chamber), in the best economy ever ( his own words ) and was spending like mad ( 7-8 trillions deficit)....
No covid crisis either for the first 3 years and no inflation ...

Now being intellectual honest as i know u are , u think biden as it easier and its comparable to trump ?

comparing the two trying to imply its equivalent makes no sense to me.
Trump was by far the worst president in the past 50 years in any categories u wish to uses.
Um after midterms it’s only gonna get worse for Biden. His window was exactly first two years and he was unable to reign Sinenema and Manchin BOTH - that will be his legacy.
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05-07-2022 , 05:16 PM
Even a prominent history professor who wrote a book about "presidential rankings" being biased against republicans thinks DJT was horrible... Honestly, it's like eventually be stoppage trying..

Only sympathy I see DJT getting from expert's is he probably wasn't the all-time worst
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05-07-2022 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
Um after midterms it’s only gonna get worse for Biden. His window was exactly first two years and he was unable to reign Sinenema and Manchin BOTH - that will be his legacy.
It’s going to get worst for biden because half the country only focus on their belly button …trying to blame anyone they can find for their little problems .

Regardless of Inflation (which is present all around the world) , the US still as the best economy and currency in the world in these troublesome times .
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05-08-2022 , 12:43 AM
A lot of people post here from different handheld devices and it's easy for spell-check to garble what you write without your noticing

And, of course, this had only one such occurence, which I fixed.
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05-08-2022 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie
A lot of people post here from different handheld devices and it's easy for spell-check to garble what you write without your noticing

And, of course, this had only one such occurence, which I fixed.
+1

Yet I don't believe that Montrealcorp's blatant racism and sexism is a spell-check issue. It's his thoughts that are garbled at least as much as his syntax.
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05-08-2022 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
+1

Yet I don't believe that Montrealcorp's blatant racism and sexism is a spell-check issue. It's his thoughts that are garbled at least as much as his syntax.

But CNN and MSNBC have been telling him that conservatives are the sexists and racists simply for being conservative. The news said it, so it must be true…….right?
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05-08-2022 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nick619
But CNN and MSNBC have been telling him that conservatives are the sexists and racists simply for being conservative. The news said it, so it must be true…….right?
I believe everything I see on the tee-vee machine!
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05-08-2022 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
+1

Yet I don't believe that Montrealcorp's blatant racism and sexism is a spell-check issue. It's his thoughts that are garbled at least as much as his syntax.
That's not the comment I was referencing

FWIW, the comment you referenced by him is not remotely racist or sexist. Only that comment. I am not familiar with his entire body of work

While I'm no fan of "white male privlege" narrative, it's hard to think of them as victims either
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05-08-2022 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nick619
But CNN and MSNBC have been telling him that conservatives are the sexists and racists simply for being conservative. The news said it, so it must be true…….right?
Is this some sort of performance art?
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05-08-2022 , 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie
That's not the comment I was referencing

FWIW, the comment you referenced by him is not remotely racist or sexist. Only that comment. I am not familiar with his entire body of work

While I'm no fan of "white male privlege" narrative, it's hard to think of them as victims either
Those 2 are near delusional ….
Obviously u got me right .
Seeing any kind of racism or sexist in my comment makes me clearly understand how they must think , totally far out of reality.
I understand now how can people believe in god …

Seriously, get rid of this religious dogmatism/fanaticism out of Justice court please , it’s becoming Middle East Justice system based on theocracy .
Is it really better ???
Kinda frightening.

Ps: nick I dont have to listen to any news , just exchanging with you and seeing how u react with others it’s as clear as day …
I’m certainly not one who holds prejudice .

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05-08-2022 , 12:59 PM
Honestly, do I really need the liberal media to tell me that DJT is mentally unhinged?

Or, that his hard-core supporters are in complete denial?

Do I really need Don Lemon to brainwash me?

BTW, I am not a fan of most progressives, nor many high profile liberal commentators.

I try to see both points of view and find a middle ground
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05-08-2022 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
But CNN and MSNBC have been telling him that conservatives are the sexists and racists simply for being conservative. The news said it, so it must be trueÂ…Â….right?
American right-wingers are SO FURIOUS about centrist corporate media entities CNN and MSNBC. The same entities that routinely host conservatives, including the real MAGA types. The same MSNBC that gives former Republican congressman Joe Scarborough multiple hours every day. The same CNN that hosted Stephen Miller and put him up against the basic rube Jake Tapper.

All these entities are doing is exactly what capitalism requires from them -- maximizing profits for their shareholders. Once again, liberal bias in media isn't what you're mad about; (although you types never talk about how the right completely dominates radio news/opinion, that doesn't count for some reason I always forget) you are mad at CAPITALISM. Welcome to the resistance.

Nick, I haven't watched more than 30 minutes combined of CNN and MSNBC in my entire life. I don't need them to understand that conservatives are sexist and racist (and stupid, and reactionary).

Edit: the average age of cable news viewers, of any ilk, is, like, 65 years old. The kids ain't watching Don Lemon or Sean Hannity or any of these other performers. So, buck up.
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05-08-2022 , 01:06 PM
"I can't stand libruls using CNN to brainwash America!", he says, as he watches local news from the Sinclair Broadcasting Group, opens up the local newspaper from Gannet Co./Tegna, and turns on the radio to find whatever freak they got to replace Rush Limbaugh.

Last edited by DifferentName; 05-08-2022 at 01:09 PM. Reason: hopefully they brought back that British pedo that sometimes hosted Rush's show
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05-08-2022 , 01:22 PM
Also, lol at these almost certainly monolingual Republican Americans insulting Montrealcorp's language. Montrealcorp very likely speaks French (roughly 90% of people from Montreal speak French fluently). He was probably raised in the French language (>70% of Montreal homes are raised in this way). He writes in his second language only slightly worse than you lot write in your ONLY language. Give him a ****in' break.

Ignorant-ass piggies.
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05-08-2022 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie
here are 2 perfect examples of "new republican types":

1) there was a poll "is the economy improving?"... 75% to 80% of republicans said "no" at the same time GDP was increasing at 8%+... of course, it was improving because of "easing of restrictions" and Joe Biden wasn't causing the improved economy but that's not what the question asked... I do think democrats would answer more honestly
Ummm...The economy did not in fact improve. I don't know when your poll was, but assuming it was sometime in the not so distant past, those 75% to 80% of republicans were right. The economy wasn't improving, it was getting worse. We now have 7-8.5% inflation & negative GDP growth for the 1st quarter.

Let's say it's Q3/Q4 last year, and you ask a bunch of people do you think the economy is improving, those that said "yes" turned out to be wrong. Those that said "no" were objectively right by most metrics.
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05-08-2022 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vikthunder
Ummm...The economy did not in fact improve. I don't know when your poll was, but assuming it was sometime in the not so distant past, those 75% to 80% of republicans were right. The economy wasn't improving, it was getting worse. We now have 7-8.5% inflation & negative GDP growth for the 1st quarter.

Let's say it's Q3/Q4 last year, and you ask a bunch of people do you think the economy is improving, those that said "yes" turned out to be wrong. Those that said "no" were objectively right by most metrics.
Fwiw
https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543

Real gdp
2014 : 2.5%
2015 : 3.1%
2016 : 1.7% (presidential race )
2017 : 2.3% ( tax cuts )
2018 : 3.0% (big deficit )
2019: 2.2% (economy already tanking pre covid)
2020 : -3.4% ( normal no blaming )
2021 : biden ( 5.7% )
2022 : obviously won’t be great but war , China lock down , monetary tightening speed never seen in last 200 years .

For a Republican president that claim the US economy was the best ever under his watch and we see the numbers today .
And he made huge tax cuts and deficit to boost the “economy” ( for trump , stock market is the economy …) with results not exceeding obama ?

To me rivercity comment seem right .

Obama and Biden had far more problems to deal with than trump did .
And trump had the 2 chambers control as well .

Not saying one was better than the other , but certainly trump didn’t do much either ….beside increasing huge deficits .
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05-08-2022 , 09:43 PM
Inflation
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05-09-2022 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by vikthunder
Ummm...The economy did not in fact improve. I don't know when your poll was, but assuming it was sometime in the not so distant past, those 75% to 80% of republicans were right. The economy wasn't improving, it was getting worse. We now have 7-8.5% inflation & negative GDP growth for the 1st quarter.

Let's say it's Q3/Q4 last year, and you ask a bunch of people do you think the economy is improving, those that said "yes" turned out to be wrong. Those that said "no" were objectively right by most metrics.
what the F are you smoking? are you on crack?.... WOW................ JUST WOW

if I get banned, so be it......

CHECK YOUR FACTS!!!!!!
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05-09-2022 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie
what the F are you smoking? are you on crack?.... WOW................ JUST WOW

if I get banned, so be it......

CHECK YOUR FACTS!!!!!!
Post 1847 responding to you

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Using facts vs republicans is losing strategy since they don’t believe in facts when u present them with datas … .

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05-09-2022 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie
here's another question:

what % of Americans, new republican/conservative types, actually cared about "right to life" vs. "right to choose" before this became a politicized issue very recently?

obviously, it was politicized back in the day.

but I think these "new republican types" oppose things because the democrats want them. like it's a football game or something.

here are 2 perfect examples of "new republican types":

1) there was a poll "is the economy improving?"... 75% to 80% of republicans said "no" at the same time GDP was increasing at 8%+... of course, it was improving because of "easing of restrictions" and Joe Biden wasn't causing the improved economy but that's not what the question asked... I do think democrats would answer more honestly

2) and 75% of GDP had a negative opinion of Jill Biden........ I mean, that was a real head-scratcher.

too much empty partisanship.. yes, the Dems engage in it too, but not near to R extent.
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Originally Posted by vikthunder
Ummm...The economy did not in fact improve. I don't know when your poll was, but assuming it was sometime in the not so distant past, those 75% to 80% of republicans were right. The economy wasn't improving, it was getting worse. We now have 7-8.5% inflation & negative GDP growth for the 1st quarter.

Let's say it's Q3/Q4 last year, and you ask a bunch of people do you think the economy is improving, those that said "yes" turned out to be wrong. Those that said "no" were objectively right by most metrics.
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Fwiw
https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543

Real gdp
2014 : 2.5%
2015 : 3.1%
2016 : 1.7% (presidential race )
2017 : 2.3% ( tax cuts )
2018 : 3.0% (big deficit )
2019: 2.2% (economy already tanking pre covid)
2020 : -3.4% ( normal no blaming )
2021 : biden ( 5.7% )
2022 : obviously won’t be great but war , China lock down , monetary tightening speed never seen in last 200 years .

For a Republican president that claim the US economy was the best ever under his watch and we see the numbers today .
And he made huge tax cuts and deficit to boost the “economy” ( for trump , stock market is the economy …) with results not exceeding obama ?

To me rivercity comment seem right .

Obama and Biden had far more problems to deal with than trump did .
And trump had the 2 chambers control as well .

Not saying one was better than the other , but certainly trump didn’t do much either ….beside increasing huge deficits .
The question posed in the survey wasn't "Was the trump economy the best ever?" or "is the Biden economy doing well under the circumstances?" The question was "Is the economy improving?"

It was not improving. The republicans surveyed had a better prediction of the future than average during that timeframe, and as such, that is a poor example of republican delusion/maleficence.
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05-09-2022 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
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Can a mod excise all this Trump v Biden and economy crap?
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05-09-2022 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie
what the F are you smoking? are you on crack?.... WOW................ JUST WOW

if I get banned, so be it......

CHECK YOUR FACTS!!!!!!
Double checking official inflation rate statistics...yup 7-8.5% for Q1.
Double checking official GDP estimates for Q1...yup negative.

Not sure what you're trying to say? Are you suggesting you think the economy is doing well right now?
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05-09-2022 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Can a mod excise all this Trump v Biden and economy crap?
This, please!
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