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Yesterday , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
BGP, in 2019, did Belarus want a Russian base on their soil?
victor if Belarus government had wanted to ally with Europe why the hell would we have organized a color revolution lol.

we did because the people wanted Europe, the crony corrupted leaders without popular support didn't.

the leaders managed to stay in power dictatorially, and then went allin pro Russia for self defense (of the leaders)
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Yesterday , 08:39 PM
I expounded on it as did Luciom. What you said is nonsense. Do I really need to point out which parts are half truths and which parts are Victor anti west fan fic? If you want to leave it at this then fine. If you want to try to argue your ludicrous framing of what happened then feel free to do so.
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Yesterday , 08:42 PM
Luciom: Victor is an imperialist bootlicker. Any attempt at overthrowing corrupt governments is automatically done by nazis (probably fomented by the west) and is an unlawful coup. Their only moral option in Victor's mind is to let it happen.
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Yesterday , 08:43 PM
so no reasons, no cites. I guess we are done here.
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Yesterday , 08:45 PM
I however, can provide them. bc I know more than you. I read more than you. I understand more than you.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-russia-talks



https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1WB2J3/



you think you can guess in this timeline when Belarus agreed to the Russian bases on their territory?
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Yesterday , 08:56 PM
Cool, I never denied this. What point do you think you're making? I don't not see how this helps to prove your fanfiction that the west just denied Belarus (for reasons you neglect to mention although your article thankfully does) and then tried to "color revolution" (probably Victor code for coup) him.
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Today , 10:12 AM
Decided to trace a few of the more common Russian propaganda narratives we saw since aid was passed.

Current propaganda narrative straight from the Kremlin:

https://www.barrons.com/news/us-aid-...emlin-11253130

Quote:
"The decision to provide aid to Ukraine was expected and predictable," said Russia's presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov, state news agency TASS reported.

"It will further enrich the United States of America and ruin Ukraine even more, by killing even more Ukrainians because of the Kyiv regime," he added.











Amplified by far right and MAGA













Here Snyder breaks down the common Russian propaganda narratives, the first 4 of which were parroted by several ITT: Ukrainians are nazis, Nato caused this, Ukraine is corrupt, Democracies can't do anything to change the outcome. All 6 have been mentioned by at least someone itt.






Here Kasparov explains exactly what is happening here when these Russian narratives get amplified ITT whether the people gobbling up the propaganda are doing it knowingly or deluding themselves into thinking they came to their own conclusion and it just happened to coincide with Russian propaganda despite the mountains of evidence against:

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Today , 10:45 AM
Good news:

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