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02-02-2020 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
The 2016 polls were only wrong because of Russians, election rigging, racism, climate change, and probably lots of other bad things the Republicans did.
The polls weren't wrong. Unless you think 2:1 favorites win 100% of the time.
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02-02-2020 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
The dem candidates are a pretty pathetic bunch to be fair. Bernie's too radical. He won't get elected. The only one that would give Trump a run for his money would be Tulsi imo. And she won't even get nominated.
LOL Bernie too radical, but Trump and Tulsi not radical. Not even trying to make the lies as truthful anymore.

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Originally Posted by joe6pack
That would do. Not quite as good a fit as Shifty though.

I quite like Pencil-neck myself. No doubt they would find a racist connotation with that as well.
Who "they"?
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02-02-2020 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I don’t think you entirely grasp how rhyming works. It could be a language barrier thing.
Wait...how does it work?
(And yeah technically it's alliterative and not rhyming but it's really close)
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02-02-2020 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wet work
And I suppose "Sneaky" Diane Feinstein has another totally innocent explanation as well huh? Here--let's come at it from another direction--do you think a person doling out nicknames that had any kind of decency would avoid or not avoid the obviously bigoted word?? I mean if I was nicknaming a guy named Mikey--there's a real obvious horrible choice and only a scumbag would actually use it. There's a 1000% chance trump knows what he's doing using that specific word. It's not as if it's some new or little known stereotype--it's been around for Ages. Defending it from a point of playing dumb just doesn't pass the smell test--sorry. And with the rest of the context wrt trump makes it's blatantly obvious.
I am not making some broad, universal claim. But going from Schiff to shifty is something I am pretty sure my 10 year old nephew could come up with.

Now, you could also probably explain to him why he shouldn't use that nickname and he would probably understand and comply, but that is another issue altogether.

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02-02-2020 , 01:06 PM
So, the argument is in this one instance where the names happen to sound similar it's not and trump is just demonstrating his command of the English language?? Dude can barely read You're giving him the benefit of the doubt--when reality is the entire reason he's using that word is because of its other meaning. He knows exactly what he's doing. iirc He started with Schitt(another obvious word considering his name) and only moved to shifty later on--presumably with some forethought.
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02-02-2020 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
The polls weren't wrong. Unless you think 2:1 favorites win 100% of the time.
what a weird analogy, do you think polling 33% means the candidate has 33% of winning?
Stats aren't probabilities.
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02-02-2020 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
what a weird analogy, do you think polling 33% means the candidate has 33% of winning?
Stats aren't probabilities.
Do you think Donald Trump was polling at 33%?
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02-02-2020 , 01:53 PM
wtf I was talking about your 2:1 exemple.
After a quick search hillary had about 2 to 3% advantage in the polls that was reflected in the popular vote?
The only reason Trump's won is cause of your stupid electoral college system.
Or am I missing something?
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02-02-2020 , 03:28 PM
if we got rid of EC, would a republican ever win?
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02-02-2020 , 04:40 PM
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Alexander said that what Trump should have done, if he was so "upset" about Joe Biden and Ukraine, “he should have called the attorney general, and told him that, and let the attorney general handle it the way they always handle cases involving public figures.”

Why didn't he, asked Chuck Todd?

“Maybe he didn't know to do it,” Alexander said, letting loose a small chuckle
like Mueller said of Don Jr meeting with and welcoming Russia dirt, the President, entering his 4th year in office, is just too f in dumb to not be a criminal.
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02-02-2020 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
if we got rid of EC, would a republican ever win?
They elected Schwarzenegger governor or California as a Republican.
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02-02-2020 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
wtf I was talking about your 2:1 exemple.
After a quick search hillary had about 2 to 3% advantage in the polls that was reflected in the popular vote?
The only reason Trump's won is cause of your stupid electoral college system.
Or am I missing something?
Yes, Hillary had about a 2% polling advantage in the closing polls, and based on a pretty darn good mathematical model, that translates to being about at 2:1 favorite. Hillary hit her polling average in the popular vote with surprising precision, but she lost because those votes weren't distributed in a sufficiently geographically favorable manner to win the Electoral College, a system designed to give disproportionate power to slave owners.
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02-02-2020 , 05:20 PM
Pretty useless polls then, if they don't predict the E.C. winner. I mean who the **** cares who wins the popular vote?
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02-02-2020 , 05:40 PM
Does make me wonder why we went against the King of England at all? No taxation without representation? Come on guys that was the system, if you didn't like you you could petition the king.
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02-02-2020 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
Pretty useless polls then, if they don't predict the E.C. winner. I mean who the **** cares who wins the popular vote?
Ah I see there is someone who thinks a 2:1 favorite wins every time.
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02-02-2020 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
Pretty useless polls then, if they don't predict the E.C. winner. I mean who the **** cares who wins the popular vote?
It's complicated, but some people "care" because they are advocates of "democracy". You see, Joe, democracy has this component of "majority rules". So, many advocates of democracy care about who wins the popular vote because they argue, why, if millions more people in this country want Gore or Hillary to be President, why in the world is this other person is President?

wild, i know.

Like the late Barbara Bush said, don't worry your pretty little head about things like democracy. Trump rules. 1-0! can i get a whoop whoop?!!
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02-02-2020 , 06:08 PM
Republicans love to talk about tyranny of the majority when it suits their purposes--but imagine how off the rails they'd be going if they were losing elections with a majority of the vote?? **** would be bonkers.
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02-02-2020 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Yes, Hillary had about a 2% polling advantage in the closing polls, and based on a pretty darn good mathematical model, that translates to being about at 2:1 favorite. Hillary hit her polling average in the popular vote with surprising precision, but she lost because those votes weren't distributed in a sufficiently geographically favorable manner to win the Electoral College, a system designed to give disproportionate power to slave owners.
Makes sense, I misread what you were trying to say and agree with you.
I was pointing out kinda the same thing, that there is very little standard deviation and as you say, 2% would translate to 2:1 fav (agree on the theory no idea of exact numbers and don't care).
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02-02-2020 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by anatta
It's complicated, but some people "care" because they are advocates of "democracy". You see, Joe, democracy has this component of "majority rules". So, many advocates of democracy care about who wins the popular vote because they argue, why, if millions more people in this country want Gore or Hillary to be President, why in the world is this other person is President?

wild, i know.

Like the late Barbara Bush said, don't worry your pretty little head about things like democracy. Trump rules. 1-0! can i get a whoop whoop?!!
Dude, do you ever read posts before you reply to them? Serious question. Because you totally screwed up interpreting mine.

I'll even give you a hint: Think about the context.
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02-02-2020 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
if we got rid of EC, would a republican ever win?
Sure, they would. The more appropriate question to ask if the EC was eliminated is, "Would a black or brown person ever get to vote?"
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02-02-2020 , 06:25 PM
u were my foil i had a broader point beyond u. like walter said, life does not stop and start at your convenience...
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02-02-2020 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
Trump: 1 Schiff: 0

That's what the scorecard will read. A big fat F for failure.
I think it's 1-1. Schiff won in the House, Trump in the Senate.
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02-02-2020 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by slanche
I think it's 1-1. Schiff won in the House, Trump in the Senate.
Nah. Trump winning the senate wipes out the house win. The house result was just like an indictment. It's the end result that counts. Conviction or acquittal.
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02-02-2020 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
The 2016 polls were only wrong because of Russians, election rigging, racism, climate change, and probably lots of other bad things the Republicans did.
I thought is was cause she was unlikeable, turned down Facebooks help and never visited any of those important states she thought were a lock?
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02-02-2020 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I thought is was cause she was unlikeable, turned down Facebooks help and never visited any of those important states she thought were a lock?
Don’t fall for that Russian propaganda.
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