Do you think the "far right" has a pattern of centering the conversations about trans issues on subjects where trans people harm cis people? That "issue after issue raised" with an "unflinching focus on issues that impact [cis people]"?

...zzz... once again not true, hiv positive must disclose and you can get in trouble for lying about birth control. Once again no they are not the same thing, I'm not calling trans disease carrying liars, but there is a precedent to truth before sex and it's influence on consent.

But I see there is no point discussing anything with you, you somehow think there is a reason to hide it but it won't cause trauma. This would certainly traumatize most straight men, it's why they are prone to violence after finding out. (not the ones who knew all along and lied)

You also think its hateful to be angry afterwards no idea how you can coalesce number 3 and 4.

Obviously we will never agree on anything. Your logic sentence to sentence doesn't even agree with itself.

Imagine this was any other context and not trans or whatever left group, demanding sex from people and that they like it under false pretenses. Amazing.

So your big worry here is you literally have sex with someone who is both passing so well that you can't tell even when having sex with them and is aiming to deceive you. And you are so quivering in your boots over this nightmare scenario you need politicians to pass laws banning it?

My goodness.

Tell that to the people who killed trans after finding out they were tricked. Yeah I never said I was quivering, although I have said multiple times it may have happened to me. But I know my trauma doesn't count because im a cis male interested in cis females, par for the course.

We're supposed to worry about *checks notes* blind people who can't see the giant cock the trans person just whipped out? My goodness the nightmare scenarios you people come up with!

Giant cock huh... Keep acting like bottom surgery doesn't exist. And keep acting like trans have never sucked a dick before revealing cock to the cis.

Do you normally blame the victims of murders or is this a trans only kinda thing?

They have literal goals to be ultra passable, indistinguishable from a cis woman, now you are trying to shame cis men they have tricked, hypothetical or not. You are all seriously nut cases.

Maybe the dude who flipped out and killed someone isn’t the person you should have sympathy towards here?

I didn't blame the victim. I like how trans people can't commit rape via deception though, because they are trans!

Never said I had sympathy for them, and I can have sympathy for something that happened to them and disagree with them killing the person. The person should have went to jail instead if it was provably malicious, but you all want to argue for no recourse and then wonder why violence is seen as an option by some people.

I'm guessing a good amount of people believe it to be rape.

How many times have you called for the death of rapists? Or how often have you sympathized with someone who has been raped "flipping out" and harming their attacker?

Nah you'll just keep twisting and lying literally everything I'm saying. I love how you all ignore everything else then cherry pick something out of context hoping it will stick. You are pathetic. Literally only chiming in when you think you hit me with the "got ya".

You all literally believe it is not morally wrong to commit what I imagine most people would consider a form of sexual assault/rape. That is how unhinged you are. This is why far right people REFUSE to work with you at all.

Even if you disagree that its sexual assault, the mere fact that a good portion of people likely believe it IS, that alone should make it unethical to not inform them before ****ing them. You know the same way is expected to be polite and call people born men: "women" when they identify as trans? Disgusting behavior.

What is the deal with rape and retroactive withdrawal of consent.

If a women sleeps with a man and the man says he is not married and the women finds out he is married later and she would not have slept with him if she knew, is that rape?

This is a question that has no sub text, just asking.

Ya know, now that we are down this delightful rabbit hole of the bad trans people deceiving the innocent cis people, I gotta say if someone is so passing that you got it up and had penetrative sex with them without a clue they were trans....i dunno....if a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it, did it really make a sound?

sorry bro didn't see this. so you might have a point there.

how does this affect you personally though?

did you ever fall in love with a trans and then had a surprise? Are you a victim you say?

https://theconversation.com/guilty-v...w-gender-47617

Violence is seen as an option because people like you are hysterical and completely out of control.

The subtext is that he’s terrified he might enjoy the experience.

What is your real screenname, coward? I don't consent to conversing with a deceitful lying coward

No it's not. Sex is often enjoyable. I still think people shouldn't be lying via omission about their sexual organs when they know its likely to cause trauma and/or the revocation of consent.

Also, Lol at the mask coming ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the way off.

But sure, I am confident I can expect your support when bills are introduced to punish men who attempt to get in a woman's pants by lying about their income or status.

How often?

Hahaha look how mad they are because I think people should have definitive consent before sex. Amazing.

How would they possibly know it would lead to revocation? Do most causal conversation between potential sex partners include "Are you a disgusting transphobe" in the line of questioning?

You got it buddy. My number is got. Its exactly why I'm hiding behind a fake screen name so nobody knows my real stance...

oh wait.

Yep here we go, the typical "YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH TRANS/GAY PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE SECRETLY GAY!"

Another way for gays/trans to demand sex from everyone! Amazing!

Then when I give you that what do you ask for next, my full name? My address? So you can take all my quotes out of context and add all this bigoted **** you try to pin on me?

You think I'm scared to say that people deserve to know that they are having sex with their preferred cis partner and give consent if otherwise not from my other screename? Lmao... nutcase.