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08-28-2022 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
You think I'm a Trumpster because I said I would prefer help to be given to the poor instead of to the middle class?
Absolutely not .

But Imo thinking education is not a needed thing in today society breed trumpster (climate change hoax , anti science , fake news everywhere , conspiracy theorist , double standard treatment , mixing beliefs with facts , etc )

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 08-28-2022 at 10:43 PM.
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08-28-2022 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Absolutely not .

But Imo thinking education is not a needed thing in today society breed trumpster (climate change hoax , anti science , fake news everywhere , conspiracy theorist , double standard treatment , mixing beliefs with facts , etc )
I thought you agreed with me on that issue. You implied that people want to go to an expensive college not because the knowledge is necessary for their likely jobs, but because they are competing with others for the same jobs, and employers are more likely to hire a college graduate than someone without a degree, even if it isn't necessary. It's like an arms buildup that hurts everyone. If we could cut the number of people going to college (by maybe 50% or so) then there would not be so many people with student loan debt, and the employers would have just hire people without a college degree for jobs that don't really require it.

I've never had a job for which my college degree was really necessary. I even worked for the federal government for several years, and the older people in my position didn't have college degrees. Even one of the ladies who supervised me didn't have a college degree; she started working for the government straight out of high school and worked her way up into a professional job.
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08-28-2022 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I thought you agreed with me on that issue. You implied that people want to go to an expensive college not because the knowledge is necessary for their likely jobs, but because they are competing with others for the same jobs, and employers are more likely to hire a college graduate than someone without a degree, even if it isn't necessary. It's like an arms buildup that hurts everyone. If we could cut the number of people going to college (by maybe 50% or so) then there would not be so many people with student loan debt, and the employers would have just hire people without a college degree for jobs that don't really require it.

I've never had a job for which my college degree was really necessary. I even worked for the federal government for several years, and the older people in my position didn't have college degrees. Even one of the ladies who supervised me didn't have a college degree; she started working for the government straight out of high school and worked her way up into a professional job.
I do agree with all of that .
But to my reality , older people didnt need the same prerequisite as it was 30 years ago either .
That’s all .

U won’t be able to go far ( if even enter in the government today ) without some education today which was possible previously.

My point was , without a degree , life will be much harder today then it was 25-30 years because of the lack of jobs u could fall back upon , like manufacturing jobs for example.

It isn’t just about What u study like u said , but to actually have the paper is by itself a plus which I fortunately as reach indecent level of cost that shouldn’t be necessary .
But they are almost force too .

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 08-28-2022 at 11:25 PM.
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08-28-2022 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
I do agree with all of that .
But to my reality , older people didnt need the same prerequisite as it was 30 years ago either .
That’s all .

U won’t be able to go far ( if even enter in the government today ) without a good education today which was possible previously.
I believe these changes all happened much longer than 30 years ago. Mostly in the 1970s. Basically anyone who is under 65 years old has had to deal with the same issues.
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08-28-2022 , 11:32 PM
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I believe these changes all happened much longer than 30 years ago. Mostly in the 1970s. Basically anyone who is under 65 years old has had to deal with the same issues.
Well I’m generation x and from my pov , when I look around and compare wages and the cost of living and the availability of jobs around it ain’t the same thing .

The good thing in last 2 years is the employees got the upper hand but it won’t last long .
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