Cmon Jay... bringing truth to the Riggie thread has been frowned upon.
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Oh wait, sorry all. so out of character for me.

Cite your source Jay!

That's a mere assertion. I don't recall seeing any actual evidence to support it, although I concede it could be out there. I am very confident none of you have come across such evidence even though you believe the assertion. I raise it as an issue not because the truth value of the claim is significant- it isn't. I raise it to show that assertions made by the media coverage surrounding the investigation and by the investigation itself are largely empty. They are telling you things but they aren't verifying anything. And most of what they do tell you falls apart in any subsequent verification process.

How did we get to where the American public are such dupes that intelligence agencies can tell them anything, repeatedly, and they believe it even though what they are being told is constantly exposed as lies?

Wikileaks has a pristine reputation and they are thought of as near terrorists. Intelligence agencies are on the record as serial liars and you believe everything they say. What am I missing that makes me want to believe truth tellers and not want to believe proven liars? At least, if you're a proven liar, show me the evidence.

The full quote is better:

“investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”

From here:

https://time.com/5610317/mueller-rep...ths-breakdown/

I suspect you may need to read the Mueller Report HERE. Not a brief synopses from an alternate news source,,,, the actual document.

Yes you consistently miss things. Like the point.

When you say there is no strong proof Putin had a strong preference for Trump in the face of Putin on video saying he had a strong preference for Trump and you say your reason for dismissing is because Putin did not elaborate and give you detail, that just shows how dumb you are.

If I ask you if you like Chocolate or Vanilla ice cream more and you say Vanilla that is a definitive and clear factual statement by you. It is not invalidated because you did not explain why you like Vanilla the most.

Only an idiot would say you never made it clear which you preferred and we cannot pretend to know, because you never dived into specifics.

If Vanilla just won an election over Chocolate to assume control of thousands of unclear warheads pointed at my country as well as all kinds of levers on my foreign policy objectives, and someone asks me right in front of Vanilla if I wanted Vanilla to win, why would I ever say I wanted Chocolate? Especially when I know Vanilla is the most vain and vindictive flavor in the world?

I guess maybe you are on the spectrum or something and you have zero understanding about people. I don't say that to put you down but I honestly think you would have a hard time getting anyone to back you up on this. If you think things like that, that Putin is going to be honest in that spot, then you must have people constantly telling you when you aren't understanding how people behave. This is definitely an instance of that. Seriously this is one of the worst arguments I have ever seen in this forum and my history shows I am perfectly willing to concede when an opponent has a decent argument.

What you say here does not change the FACT you said "I like Vanilla best" and then after you are denying you ever said it.

Instead what you have switched to in your argument is "I said Vanilla", but "you should not believe me because I was put in a coercive position'.

Your changed position ('I said it but it does not count') does not change the FACT you were wrong to say you NEVER said it.

A lot of people might still think Russians hacked the DNC. They didn't, if that is what you are referencing here.

One thing I hope we can all agree on and learn through this is that Adam Schiff is a serial liar. He lies like other people breathe. He kept perpetuating the lie that Russia hacked the DNC even though it was revealed later that the company the government trusted to evaluate that (the servers were never examined by the U.S. government) told him point blank that there was no evidence any data was even exfiltrated. The hack was clearly a leak. This was actually established early on by the former head technologist of NSA William Binney. But if you don't believe the most qualified guy in the world showing his work then you can see it confirmed in released transcripts in which Crowdstrike, then company hired to do the forensics, said the same.

You do know that actual charges were made?

INDICTMENT
The Grand Jury for the District of Columbia charges:
COUNT ONE
(Conspiracy to Commit an Offense Against the United States)
1. In or around 2016, the Russian Federation (“Russia”) operated a military intelligence
agency called the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff (“GRU”). The GRU had
multiple units, including Units 26165 and 74455, engaged in cyber operations that involved the
staged releases of documents stolen through computer intrusions. These units conducted largescale cyber operations to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
Case 1:18-cr-00215-ABJ Document 1 Filed 07/13/18 Page 1 of 29
2
2. Defendants VIKTOR BORISOVICH NETYKSHO,

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

You are not wrong. A bios password would only be useful if you were physically at a machine.

I am fascinated by your 34 percent number. So in your world, Trump really won by what, 17 points? 20 points? 34 points?

It's not my number

Voter: “About 70% of the votes at this location have been shown as already casted when they were not?”

Election official: “Right.”

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/sta...ecall-election

Shocker...to absolutely no one.

100% true. I just got back from my Soros paid trip to secretly cast ballots and hack the voting machine bios wifi.

Clearly a lie. The head of Dominion, in Congressional testimony, said those machines can't connect to the internet.

That's what they want you to believe. Plausible deniability.

We're also going to arrest everyone that voted for Elder and ship them off to Eastern Russia in a secret agreement with Putin. They then be placed in forced labor camps to vote for putin every election. This will also happen in 2022 to everyone who votes republican. We have the power to do it. My advice is to not vote. Hide. Stay safe.

...and wear a mask

Meaningless charges were filed. Those accused will never be extradited and they will never face trial.

Again, we have assertions made, no evidence given, and counter evidence very convincing. There was no successful hack of the DNC. It was a leak. Those charges are for conspiracy for a reason.

Did you miss the part where Crowdstrike itself stated there was no evidence of a hack?

William Binney, a former NSA "Geopolitical World Technical Director" for the NSA, the man who built the pilot programs which would become the global surveillance systems that Snowden showed us, says he is sure the supposed hack was really a leak. He is in several interviews explaining the technical side of it, which comes down to transmission speeds only matching with a direct download.

So it can be said there is ample evidence that Russia didn't successfully hack the DNC. Whether they conspired to? Whatever no one cares. Probably 50 or more countries make some attempt to hack us.

You seem confused.

From Crowdstrike.

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bea...nal-committee/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...fraud-n1279080


If nothing else, the term "baseless" is for once used with complete accuracy.

People turning up at the polling stations appeared on TV after they were told they had already voted when they hadn't, with election officials confirming that 70% of the people in that district had the same issue...is baseless?

Are you serious?

It will be interesting if they ever calculate how much sheer money was grifted from the derps like you on this topic. Willingly grifted as well - it almost does not matter of the ones grifting came out and said "LOL you morons we are grifting you" before putting out their latest message to be consumed by people like you. Derps as a customer base are essentially the holy grail in that regard.

I still chuckle when remembering that you used the "can someone help me disprove this" routine when you first started posting here. Shows how clever derps are as a species.

Also shows how things change, since you said that guy does not matter after he got fake attacked by Antifa. You still believe and monetize the stuff he says of course .


All the best.

Are you? **** man, the article was only three paragraphs long.

People turning up at the polling stations appeared on TV after they were told they had already voted when they hadn't, with election officials confirming that 70% of the people in that district had the same issue...is baseless?

Are you serious?

I like bacon cheeseburgers.