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02-16-2022 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
That should have happened after the first week if not sooner when they blocked border crossings. The police had the necessary tools but were not using them or enforcing them.

I see no issue with a Premier or PM directing law enforcement to enforce the law. Now the Emergency Act is another story.
Seem to me emergency act was activated precisely because law weren’t applied by law enforcement?
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02-16-2022 , 07:50 PM
Yeah like the Ottawa police chief just resigned because the law isn't being enforced. In light of that invoking the EA seems prudent by the PM.
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02-16-2022 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Seem to me emergency act was activated precisely because law weren’t applied by law enforcement?
But Law enforcement has removed the blockades at the Coutts Crossing, Ambassador Bridge and Manitoba and were achieved prior to the emergency act. So what we have is a Ottawa police force not doing their job.

The act is still an overstep by the government to many legal scholars . It will clear a parliament vote as the NDP's will vote for it while the Bloc and Conservatives will vote against it. 5 Premiers are against it as well . The big question is will it pass the senate. You think with all their powers now they should have this cleaned up by Monday??
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02-16-2022 , 11:48 PM
I didn’t follow the entire saga and the timing of who did what and when .
But for a while I believed not just Ottawa law enforcement but many others weren’t doing much until very recently .

Yeah those measures might of been over top but seem the borders were more in the hands of protestors than in the hands of the country itself ?

im not a fan either of those measures but if the police would of did it’s real job ( not being a tax collector for the government but actually peace and order …) from the start we wouldn’t even be in this position .

I don’t think there is any right answer here but hopefully a lot of government institutions , premier included , learn their lesson and these kinds situation won’t happen again any time soon .

Those kind of measures can’t be taken lightly and when someone in power have to use this , it means he failed miserably prior to the situation we speak of .

I got no problem of JT being blame for it .
Even tho he might of been right of doing it , his still wrong for letting happen in the first place .

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02-17-2022 , 10:05 AM
Was watching CTV National last night and the Ottawa Police force looks to be in a mess. The mayor has removed the head of their police commission and all the municipal members resigned in protest. As well council members voiced their disgust with the mayors actions

Wow yesterday in the house of commons Justin says
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Conservatives stand with those that fly swastikas
and than the one minister on national TV indicating the Ottawa protesters are linked to the folks arrested in Couts. When asked what proof they had he had no answer.

The rhetoric by the Liberals is as the Quebec Premier put it putting gas or oil on the fire
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02-17-2022 , 10:48 AM
Trudeau is still holding on to that brown paperbag with a hole at the bottom (the mandate).

Every single province is phasing out mandates and Trudeau is clutching onto this one to show strength!
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02-17-2022 , 12:04 PM
I just don't think this is as hard to end as the officials make it out to be, especially with the new power Trudeau has granted himself.

It will not be quick but it will be certain, and here is my way to definitively end the protest and get the people to go home or arrest them.


- create a cordoned zone around individual protest areas. Use troops if you need man power. Let them know that anyone who leaves the zone will not be allowed to return
- Do not allow any supplies, food, gas for heat, etc to enter the cordon zone

Let nature take its course.

within days food and heat will be gone. People can then begin to fast if they are so determined. Some may even choose to die of cold exposure rather than leave or accept help. But the protestors will leave.

this is basic siege strategy on starving out and allowing the elements to beat an enemy without having to physically engage with them.

These people are not going to leave voluntarily and sending in police to try and drag them out will cause more injuries and likely death, as they want those type of headlines of the Jack booted authority stomping their freedums. Better to turn them into hunger fasters and show that help and options are just a few feet away and they are refusing it. that will still rile up some derps but most of society will just see them as ridiculous.
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02-17-2022 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I just don't think this is as hard to end as the officials make it out to be, especially with the new power Trudeau has granted himself.

It will not be quick but it will be certain, and here is my way to definitively end the protest and get the people to go home or arrest them.


- create a cordoned zone around individual protest areas. Use troops if you need man power. Let them know that anyone who leaves the zone will not be allowed to return
- Do not allow any supplies, food, gas for heat, etc to enter the cordon zone

Let nature take its course.

within days food and heat will be gone. People can then begin to fast if they are so determined. Some may even choose to die of cold exposure rather than leave or accept help. But the protestors will leave.

this is basic siege strategy on starving out and allowing the elements to beat an enemy without having to physically engage with them.

These people are not going to leave voluntarily and sending in police to try and drag them out will cause more injuries and likely death, as they want those type of headlines of the Jack booted authority stomping their freedums. Better to turn them into hunger fasters and show that help and options are just a few feet away and they are refusing it. that will still rile up some derps but most of society will just see them as ridiculous.
With the new power and a competent leader not at all. The problem is they are waiting on a consultants report on what they should do.

This was easy Arrest every protester that does not leave. Obviously they get out on bail and return and you arrest them again.

As for Tow Trucks . You keep upping the rate till you get a bite. I am sure a driver would tow for $5000 an hour . There becomes a $ figure were greed takes over


I am shocked that doxing of donors is going on at twitter and some news sources. I just hope CTV and CBC and Global are not participating in this
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02-17-2022 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Every single province is phasing out mandates
Still in place in BC. Definitely very happy we had the mandates, they made a big difference in getting to those really high vax numbers. Their utility is waning to be sure, but had a great run and no particular rush to remove them imo. Antivaxxers can be the last to get back in.
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02-17-2022 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
With the new power and a competent leader not at all. The problem is they are waiting on a consultants report on what they should do.

This was easy Arrest every protester that does not leave. Obviously they get out on bail and return and you arrest them again.

As for Tow Trucks . You keep upping the rate till you get a bite. I am sure a driver would tow for $5000 an hour . There becomes a $ figure were greed takes over


I am shocked that doxing of donors is going on at twitter and some news sources. I just hope CTV and CBC and Global are not participating in this
I would not even go in and arrest them. They want to be dragged out, show it escalating to fights and conflicts knowing some police will handle it badly, etc.

Just cordon off the area. Put police tape all around it. Cut off all supplies going in and out. And allow people to leave but not re-enter.

Have the Military put together a logistics plan to haul all the heavy equipment including every last truck out. That is well within the militaries power to do.

This way if you end up with fights on TV it is the derps picking a fight as they try to push past police and military forces saying 'you cannot enter that zone' and then getting arrested when they try. That is far less sympathetic then seeing the police go in and drag a father away from his truck with his wife and kids screaming nearby.
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02-17-2022 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I would not even go in and arrest them. They want to be dragged out, show it escalating to fights and conflicts knowing some police will handle it badly, etc.

Just cordon off the area. Put police tape all around it. Cut off all supplies going in and out. And allow people to leave but not re-enter.

Have the Military put together a logistics plan to haul all the heavy equipment including every last truck out. That is well within the militaries power to do.

This way if you end up with fights on TV it is the derps picking a fight as they try to push past police and military forces saying 'you cannot enter that zone' and then getting arrested when they try. That is far less sympathetic then seeing the police go in and drag a father away from his truck with his wife and kids screaming nearby.

Its been a long time since I have been to Ottawa Not sure how much area they would have to secure. I do think it is a good strategy
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02-17-2022 , 03:27 PM
QP for Prime Minister. I look forward to the 45 minute rambling speeches every 50 minutes
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02-17-2022 , 04:10 PM
Turns out they are freezing accounts now. Wow As well if a bank freezes your account mistakenly and destroys you there is no legal recourse.

Were doxing folks that donated $20 and now this.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...?ocid=msedgntp
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02-17-2022 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
QP for Prime Minister. I look forward to the 45 minute rambling speeches every 50 minutes
WTF 45 minutes.

I am going to have to shorten all my rants!
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02-17-2022 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Turns out they are freezing accounts now. Wow As well if a bank freezes your account mistakenly and destroys you there is no legal recourse.

Were doxing folks that donated $20 and now this.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...?ocid=msedgntp
Instead of throwing away a useless mandate, trudeau digs in and freezes bank accounts!

buahahahahah I am enjoying this **** show. I wanted this trucker convoy to give Trudeau a good kicking and they accomplished way more than I would have hoped.
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02-17-2022 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Still in place in BC. Definitely very happy we had the mandates, they made a big difference in getting to those really high vax numbers. Their utility is waning to be sure, but had a great run and no particular rush to remove them imo. Antivaxxers can be the last to get back in.
These mandates as of Feb 17 2022 have zero effectiveness any further. Every single province is throwing these mandates out the door yet Trudeau is desperately holding on to it like a baby blanket.
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02-17-2022 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Instead of throwing away a useless mandate, trudeau digs in and freezes bank accounts!

buahahahahah I am enjoying this **** show. I wanted this trucker convoy to give Trudeau a good kicking and they accomplished way more than I would have hoped.
Yeah part of me hopes the same. I am glad we have some US networks there otherwise we would get a shielded broadcast. We all know CBC would never show children being hauled out of trucks

Though I am glad they blocked the My pillow guy from delivering Pillows and Bibles to the Truckers. We are safer as a society now

My Pillow guy will be going to plan B

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ti...cid=uxbndlbing
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02-17-2022 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Every single province is throwing these mandates out the door.
I just told you that you are factually wrong and then you repeated the statement. I get that you were super eager to get your anti-mandate position thrown down on the forum as fast as possible, but try to get your basic facts right after being corrected.
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02-17-2022 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Just cordon off the area. Put police tape all around it. Cut off all supplies going in and out. And allow people to leave but not re-enter..
You get that people live and work in the area....right?
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02-17-2022 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I just told you that you are factually wrong and then you repeated the statement. I get that you were super eager to get your anti-mandate position thrown down on the forum as fast as possible, but try to get your basic facts right after being corrected.
I heard BC has now allowed dancing so they are moving towards opening. I was shocked to see sports arenas at full capacity
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02-17-2022 , 05:45 PM
Ya BC went the right order. Open up restaurants etc as much as possible to everyone who has done the right thing through this pandemic can come back fully provided they are masked and vaxxed. Those unwilling to do their part to end the pandemic? You'll get in soon enough, but you are back of the line right now. Alberta in contrast kowtowed to the anti-vaxxers while still leaving in restrictions hurting the restaurants like the 11pm alcohol limit.
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02-17-2022 , 05:52 PM
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Ya BC went the right order. Open up restaurants etc as much as possible to everyone who has done the right thing through this pandemic can come back fully provided they are masked and vaxxed. Those unwilling to do their part to end the pandemic? You'll get in soon enough, but you are back of the line right now. Alberta in contrast kowtowed to the anti-vaxxers while still leaving in restrictions hurting the restaurants like the 11pm alcohol limit.
Its why Im leaving this God Forsaken province and headed to BC. Damn its tough to get a builders License there and I got respect that. Slow as molasses as well.
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02-17-2022 , 05:54 PM
I will give you that point. The water main at our preschool blew. So the preschool is moving to the basement of a local church as it is a big repair. However, becauses its a new venue they need to apply to the government for a new license to run the preschool. SIX ****ING WEEKS THE PRESCHOOL IS CLOSED waiting for these bureaucrats to approve the liscense.

I love my four year old as much as I love Trudeau, but ****ing christ I'm about to lose my mind.
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02-17-2022 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I just told you that you are factually wrong and then you repeated the statement. I get that you were super eager to get your anti-mandate position thrown down on the forum as fast as possible, but try to get your basic facts right after being corrected.
Ontario is throwing out the vaccine mandate March 1.
Other provinces have already thrown it out.

It's trending that direction.
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02-17-2022 , 05:59 PM
One aspect that pisses me the **** off about the blockades and occupations is this. As of Feb, there is a convergence of views. With Omicron, the anti-vaxxer arguments that all used to be utterly terrible during delta are actually much closer to the truth. Cloth masks are less useful, being only double vaxxed is less useful, mandates are less useful now that 90%+ of adults are vaccinated, and with lower death rate we can tolerate much higher case loads and thus be much more open up. Indeed all the provinces were with or without a single protest going to be rapidly opening up anyways.

This was all supposed to be good news. Our previous divisions were supposed to be healing as the shifting pandemic brought our views back closer together.

But no.

Instead we are more divided than ever, our politicians on the left and right are politicizing it more than ever, and the arguments are all just getting stupider. Even ignoring the millions of damages from these pointless blockades, this ****ing wedge in the 11th hour is just beyond frustrating.
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