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Originally Posted by wiiziwiig
I've been cordial with him up till now, but I get pissed off when he brings up inciting violence to assume power and associates social democracy with communism, with or without counterfactual conditional reasoning.
I don't think he was trying to "associate" the two in the way you seem to think. I think he was just reacting to Victor. Have you been reading victor's posts? The ones about how communism is better than capitalism, and we don't have a legitimate democracy and all that? I think you're inferring more from OrP's reaction to that than he intends. Victor doesn't represent the entirety of progressives, by any stretch. So I don't think the conditional is worth arguing about too much because I agree with you that it's not likely at all, but I would read it as sarcasm motivated by victor's attitude.
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Originally Posted by wiiziwiig
And I don't think I've ever called someone a Trump voter for you to suspect me of thinking you're one
I didn't mean to imply that you had. It was Rflushdiamonds. Sorry, I should have just left it at "shill."
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Originally Posted by wiiziwiig
maybe you're confusing me with the side you're on, because plenty of you guys have said that by not voting Biden, we're supporting Trump.
I think "support" is too strong, but fwiw if in November it's Biden vs. Trump and you don't vote for Biden then you are definitely contributing in some very small way towards Trump winning. I don't think you are obligated therefore to vote for Trump, but I do think it would be an enormous mistake not to vote for Biden over Trump. Note that I would much prefer that it was Sanders vs. Trump. But nevertheless...
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Originally Posted by wiiziwiig
And it's not like I remember exactly everything OrP has said over the past few weeks what with the global crisis and all, which he doesn't seem to care enough to post about, but since you've now endorsed him, should I consider all further posts that OrP to also be the views of WN? Or are there any views of his you disagree with?
Well, he doesn't like Bernie as much as I do. I'm not really sure why you would take my post to mean that you should always assume I agree with OrP, but you probably wouldn't do too badly if you did. But I wasn't chiming in because I always agree with him or think you should always agree with him. I chimed in because it just seems silly for people to dismiss him in the ways that you and rflushdiamonds are doing. So it's not that I always agree with him, but I always respect him as someone to take seriously. That's my endorsement.