Here's a pretty good run down of the steal.


https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...41355913330688

I don’t think we have the same definition of stolen election.

Steve Bannon is on video stating that Trump's plan was to say the election was rigged before anyone voted. Trump said the 2016 election was rigged before he actually won. They lost(most thrown out) every court case about election fraud, some by Trump appointed judges

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNoUnxN_cs

all in the game tho.

but for real, its funny how libs are going all Westworld on 2016.

@brian

My issue with #1 is as follows

Why wasn’t trump investigated and prosecuted for his secret Chinese bank account where he hid $30 million?

What do you mean? In all seriousness, do you remember any forum regulars arguing that Trump should not be sworn in as the 45th president? Do you remember HRC or any members of Congress arguing that Trump should not be sworn in as the 45th president?

After the inauguration, do you remember any forum regulars (or HRC, or anyone in Congress) arguing that HRC should be installed, or making any effort to get HRC installed, as the rightful POTUS?

I honestly do not.

Who says he wont be? The stuff being investigated now all happened several years ago. Stuff happens slow in govt. For example, there are still Jan 6th rioters who have been in pre-detention for 3+ years awaiting trial.

#11 is concerning we know the media did its best to elect Biden but Fox did that with Trump. The concern is when the government tries to hide something which is true

I do and I even posted about it on sm.

Who are you remembering making those sorts of claims or demands? What is sm?

Hillary. Sm is social media

Can you point me to the place where HRC said either that Trump shouldn't be inaugurated or said after his inauguration that he should be removed and replaced by her as rightful POTUS?

https://www.npr.org/2017/09/18/55121...i-am-not-naive


Did you not watch the news back then? I thought they weren’t going to certify the election for him and they were going to make sure Hillary got in. Literally same thing trump
Tried to do. And it wasn’t just her saying it, it was many of her supporters in Washington as well.


I’ve got more for you

John Lewis

The late Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., said in January 2017 he would not attend Trump’s inauguration. "I do not see this president-elect as a legitimate president," he told NBC. "I think there was a conspiracy on the part of the Russians and others that helped him get elected. That’s not right. That’s not fair. That’s not the open democratic process."


https://www.statesman.com/story/news...s/69548196007/

Brian,

No one but Trumpkins gives a **** about Hunter Biden. He could be burned at the stake a no democrats other than Joe would care. Even if all you say is true and I'm sure it's not, it's just corruption, not election stealing.

It wasn't even election stealing when Reagan promised weapons to Iran if they would hold off on releasing the hostages or when Nixon told Thieu he should drop out of peace negotiations before the US elections. They were both criminal and horrible acts to be sure, quite possibly worse than election stealing, but not something like calling election officials, as POTUS, and telling them to give you more votes.

A lot of Democrats were talking about cheating and stealing with Russia-gate and all and "he's not my president" and that he was illegitimate and then after Jan 6th were sort of like "hey, but we were just kidding" and the Trumpsters were like "could have fooled us, we're not".

From your on link :
« But Youngkin’s contention that the Democratic response in 2016 equates with the Republican response to 2020 runs into trouble. The Democrats, while questioning events that occurred during the campaign, didn’t contend there was widespread vote-counting fraud that flipped the election.


The Democratic leaders cited by Youngkin’s office also made a distinction about 2016 that Trump and his followers did not about 2020. While the Democrats rejected the legitimacy of Trump’s presidency based on the oddities of the campaign, they acknowledged that he won the election.

All told, we rate Youngkin’s statement Half True. »

And all those things are like 1-2 years after the election from an interpretation on why they lost .
The democratic process on the result and the voting were never in question at all like trump try in 2020.

HRC conceded almost immediately. She attended Trump's inauguration (like every other losing candidate except Trump). There was no serious discussion about refusing to certifying Trump's election, and certification in fact went off without a hitch, just as it always did until Trump came along.

If you actually read that HRC interview (which was 9 months after Trump's inauguration), HRC said (i) she wouldn't rule out questioning the legitimacy of the election if evidence emerged that showed Russian interference was deeper than was believed at the time (which she never really did); and (ii) she didn't think there was any solid legal basis to actually challenge the outcome of the election.

She obviously never mounted a legal challenge to the outcome of the election.

Her words were a million miles from what Trump said, and her actions were a trillion miles from what Trump actually did.

I just do not get why Joe or the WH spokesperson would not come out and say Yes the text is real but Joe Biden was not standing beside him or had any knowledge the text was sent

Even the left wing media is starting to get suspicious

nobody thought it was the same. plenty of people in california and San Francisco were talking about the things you said nobody was talking about.

additionally it was all over the conspiracy sites. We were waiting for speaker pelosi not to certify and for her to become president and then hand off to clinton.

When I said nobody, I meant nobody who was either in power or who was widely regarded as a serious person.

Crackpots have always existed. I'm sure there is a person on a conspiracy site somewhere who thinks that Trump and Biden are aliens wearing Mission Impossible-style rubber masks.

Comparing Hilary's or Jeffries or others denial of Trump as a legitimate president pale in comparison on Trump's denial and the election was rigged.

Hilary did do the talking circuit implying Trump wasn't a legitimate president and Jeffries tweeted about it .

We all know if Trump loses in 2024 he will cry it was rigged

Though if Trump had just stuck to the government interfered in a fair election ........

could bury whom? hunter? biden wasn't anything in 2017.

This is where you guys don't get it though. It's not about Hunter. It's about the big guy. Hunter is a distraction.

It's the corruption by Joe Biden that the laptop potentially exposed that is the issue. Joe blatantly lied during the presidential debate that the laptop was Russian disinformation. Why?

Like I said there was also a huge effort by the democrat aligned media and official agencies to suppress the story and lie to the public in order to influence the election. So it's more than just the corruption itself. It's the deliberate cover up and censorship that took place. If you don't think that is an attempt to steal the election I don't know what to tell you.

Hopefully the Republicans will run their 2024 campaign to appeal to voters exactly like you again with issues that LOLnobodycaresabout. If at first you don't succeed, fail fail again! Thanks for your help in this, keep the Hunter fight going for as long as possible. Hunter! Hunter!

All the best.