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06-22-2023 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
The guy is 80. Even if you don't think he shown any signs of incapacitation yet there is still a decent chance he will in the near-term future at that age. On top of that, this won't be like the previous pre-election cycle where his team minimized his public exposure. He is the current president so he is going to be in the limelight and on top of that he is unlikely to run un-opposed for the dem party which will further expose mental problems if there are any.
I guess it depends on what you mean by unopposed. Unless Biden becomes incapacitated, there will be no debates and potentially viable candidates like Newsom won't run.

Biden won't be literally unopposed if you count RFK Jr. as an opponent, but he will be effectively unopposed.
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06-22-2023 , 04:11 PM
That Biden is in the basement incapacitated approach worked perfectly in 2020, especially when they had to pivot and suggest he used performance enhancement drugs after he crushed Trump in the debates. Good to see that past failed approaches are being leaned on so heavily again for 2024. So much losing! Also, Hunter! Hunter!
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06-22-2023 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
That Biden is in the basement incapacitated approach worked perfectly in 2020, especially when they had to pivot and suggest he used performance enhancement drugs after he crushed Trump in the debates. Good to see that past failed approaches are being leaned on so heavily again for 2024. So much losing! Also, Hunter! Hunter!
Great comment did you steal that from Whoopi or Rachel
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06-22-2023 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Great comment did you steal that from Whoopi or Rachel
Monty is mostly correct. It's a fine strategy for Republicans to constantly remind voters that Biden is old because there is real concern about Biden's age.

But it's poor strategy for Republicans to suggest Biden is an incapacitated drooler. Actively working to set expectations for your opponent as low as possible almost guarantees that your opponent will exceed expectations.
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06-22-2023 , 05:41 PM
I wonder if these guys talking about Biden's age realize that if Trump is elected, he will be the same age before his term ends. And he has also already showing signs of mental deterioration, which is especially bad since he didn't start from that high of a spot.
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06-22-2023 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Monty is mostly correct. It's a fine strategy for Republicans to constantly remind voters that Biden is old because there is real concern about Biden's age.

But it's poor strategy for Republicans to suggest Biden is an incapacitated drooler. Actively working to set expectations for your opponent as low as possible almost guarantees that your opponent will exceed expectations.
The best strategy I still think is your not voting for Biden but for President Kamala
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06-22-2023 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
The best strategy I still think is your not voting for Biden but for President Kamala
That probably would be the best strat. There's at least a part of me that wants to see her as Pres. purely for entertainment value
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06-22-2023 , 06:05 PM
No kidding. Just imagine how much the derps would derp if that ever happened. Probably worth it!

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Originally Posted by Rococo
Monty is mostly correct. It's a fine strategy for Republicans to constantly remind voters that Biden is old because there is real concern about Biden's age.

But it's poor strategy for Republicans to suggest Biden is an incapacitated drooler. Actively working to set expectations for your opponent as low as possible almost guarantees that your opponent will exceed expectations.
I actually like that not only did they use such a bad strategy in 2020, but they are doubling down on the losing approach again this time around. Tapping the tank they are in makes no difference. I think that is great.


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Originally Posted by lozen
Great comment did you steal that from Whoopi or Rachel
No, I have said it quite often here. You should know as you are one I often times mock a bit for pitching the long time losing strategies over and over.

I do however understand that you need to post snarky "The View" comments at least 4-5 times a day now for some reason, so good luck with that new mission of yours, and do not worry - none of "the ladies" (as you often refer to them as) you hate from that show told me to say that.

All the best.
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06-22-2023 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wet work
There's at least a part of me that wants to see her as Pres. purely for entertainment value
Lol
Nailed it !
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06-22-2023 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Monty is mostly correct. It's a fine strategy for Republicans to constantly remind voters that Biden is old because there is real concern about Biden's age.

But it's poor strategy for Republicans to suggest Biden is an incapacitated drooler. Actively working to set expectations for your opponent as low as possible almost guarantees that your opponent will exceed expectations.
He isn't that far off. He wasn't super coherent in 2020 and he has only gotten worse in the interval, with one more year to go. I suspect IF he actually runs and debates in 2024 it will all be completely prepared material he is reading off a piece of paper, and even then it will be much less coherent than 2020.

As an aside I have watched a couple Youtubes of Kennedy and the Vivek, and (whatever you think of them as potential Presidents) after Trump and Biden it is definitely a little weird seeing a theoretical potential President that can actually make a coherent political stump speech, and feel a little upset this is what we should expect and be getting, but haven't since Obama.
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06-23-2023 , 05:22 AM
God save the queen
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06-23-2023 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
That Biden is in the basement incapacitated approach worked perfectly in 2020, especially when they had to pivot and suggest he used performance enhancement drugs after he crushed Trump in the debates. Good to see that past failed approaches are being leaned on so heavily again for 2024. So much losing! Also, Hunter! Hunter!
I'm not saying repubs should make biden is a drooler a main talking point. My point was that biden had very limited public appearances prior to the election, but now that he is president it will be slightly more difficult to limit those appearances even though they've done a fairly good job so far of hiding him.
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06-23-2023 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nucularburro
God save the queen
At this point his handlers should have him just lean into it, and randomly say stuff that is funny. For example, instead of ending press conferences with "God Save the Queen" they should prepare, "Seacrest Out".
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06-23-2023 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I'm not saying repubs should make biden is a drooler a main talking point. My point was that biden had very limited public appearances prior to the election, but now that he is president it will be slightly more difficult to limit those appearances even though they've done a fairly good job so far of hiding him.
he does well in public. I know it's hard to accept for some people. but it's just the truth. he's a likable guy who says dumb things from time to time.
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06-23-2023 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wet work
That probably would be the best strat. There's at least a part of me that wants to see her as Pres. purely for entertainment value
I agree her press conferences would be hilarious though I think the same thing about Trump being President
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06-23-2023 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I agree her press conferences would be hilarious though I think the same thing about Trump being President
Did Trump ever even do a press conference? Maybe one?
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06-25-2023 , 03:40 PM
Who exactly could give the IRS and the FBI a "stand down" order not to investigate Biden other than the president (who was Donald Trump)?

I still can't understand how people think anyone could have biased the election for Biden apart from people appointed by Trump. The head of the IRS is appointed by the president. The head of the FBI is appointed by the president. If people appointed by Donald Trump wanted him out so badly that they fixed the election against the guy who appointed them, what does that say about him?
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06-25-2023 , 04:45 PM
I don't believe most people who profess to believe that Biden stole the election. I think they're just pledging allegiance to their group and they know on some level it's not true. Like if St. Peter said they had to bet their soul on it, they'd admit that 99% of whatever they're claiming is bs.
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06-25-2023 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I don't believe most people who profess to believe that Biden stole the election. I think they're just pledging allegiance to their group and they know on some level it's not true. Like if St. Peter said they had to bet their soul on it, they'd admit that 99% of whatever they're claiming is bs.
Do you believe the 2016 election was stolen
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06-25-2023 , 05:06 PM
Of course Biden stole the election, or at least the people that control him did. How any sane person can deny it is beyond me. The campaign to discredit the laptop story as Russian miss-information alone was probably enough to swing it in Biden's favor.
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06-25-2023 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Did Trump ever even do a press conference? Maybe one?
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/stat...ws-conferences

According to the above link, of all the modern presidents Trump had the most press interactions/year and had more press conferences/year than Obama, and over double Biden. Hope that helps.
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06-25-2023 , 05:21 PM
Trump's awful performance as president had a lot to do with 80 million coming out to vote against him. Historians have him in the bottom 5 for a reason. If you only let people who held cabinet level positions in his administration vote in 2024 he'd probably lose to Biden again. That's unparalleled incompetence.
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06-25-2023 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Trump's awful performance as president had a lot to do with 80 million coming out to vote against him. Historians have him in the bottom 5 for a reason. If you only let people who held cabinet level positions in his administration vote in 2024 he'd probably lose to Biden again. That's unparalleled incompetence.
Trump had 9 million more votes in 2020 than Obama did in 2012.
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06-25-2023 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
Trump had 9 million more votes in 2020 than Obama did in 2012.
He barely lost 60,000 votes over a few states . If the press and all the folks that colluded to suppress the Hunter Biden story he probably would have won

Biden barely beating Trump now and when your campaign is I'm not as bad as the other guy......

I do believe both candidates in 2020 had record vote totals
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06-25-2023 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian James
Of course Biden stole the election, or at least the people that control him did. How any sane person can deny it is beyond me. The campaign to discredit the laptop story as Russian miss-information alone was probably enough to swing it in Biden's favor.
Do you think trump stole it in 16?
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