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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I do not think Republicans need the Dem's to break the seal for them to walk thru and do same, and regardless if the dem's never do it, if the GOP has the power and the Filibuster or Parliamentarian are in their way, they would scuttle them instantly.
the key is that for now since the GOP has no real policy positions outside SC justices and Tax breaks, they do not need to scuttle them and they like how they bind and stop the Dem's implementing their agenda. If things were reversed and the GOP had an expansive agenda being blocked and the Dems had the limited agenda not being blocked the GOP would have already killed them both.
What you are saying is possible but not likely to happen.
As you pointed out right now the Republicans are basically a party with no legislative agenda. Under Trump there wasn't even a party platform in the 2020 election. So their goal is to essentially maintain the laws that are on the books while the Supreme court rulings can undo what they don't like. And they can do this whoever controls the Senate because the Democrats are unlikely to get back to a 60 seat majority.
If they were to pass a law bypassing the Fillibuster it would be extremely likely that the Democrats would take back the Senate and House shortly thereafter and not only reverse that law but start on a path of progression that would limit the Republicans ability to maintain control in purple states. A Voting Acts law that limited the wait time on lines in elections (currently it takes more than 10 hours on line to vote in many Democratic leaning counties in Southern states) would quickly pass and allow Democrats to maintain control. Similarly gerrymandering could be addressed and disallow states that are showing a majority of votes for Democrats and a majority of Republican Congressman at the same time to no longer be allowed. Again this would affect purple states like Michigan, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Arizona, etc. And again it would strengthen Democratic advantages in the House.
That would be just the tip of the iceberg. Re-writing laws about Federal Regulation would follow as well to undo the recent conservative Supreme Court rulings on the EPA and other regulatory agencies.
And of course assault rifles sales would be banned and background checks for gun purchases would be extended to 100% of gun sales (which close to 90% of the US population supports). It is even possible that the law preventing lawsuits against US gun manufacturers would be reversed.
What would the ultimate point be for Republicans? To try to codify the Pro-Life Supreme Court decision so that it would apply to all 50 states? The irony of that would be that Abortions would rise anyway. The US War on Drugs has been an unmitigated 50 year failure. There is no way to prevent abortion because it can now be done successfully 99% of the time with a pill and no doctor visit. So instead of seeking medical support and risk public knowledge of pregnancy, women would be testing in private and making quick decisions to abort. And in Pro-choice states they would choose not to prosecute anyone at a State level which is essentially leaving things as they are without a Pro-Life federal law.
I hope the Republicans do get rid of the Fillibuster. It is a stupid rule that prevents us from moving forward as a country.
Last edited by Mr Rick; 08-10-2022 at 08:14 AM.