Right so again it's those who don't wish death on others who are at fault, I get you mate,it's all good.

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I dont wish death on others and I dont think that's a fault at all.

Well you do come across as a bit of a wan...never mind

theyre all just saying ‘the trump, the’

Cuepee was wishing death on others regardless of your excuses and wordplay for him. You said many feel the same wayaboout Trump, implying it's okay to wish death on him. Hence my point that it's those who don't wish death on others who are at fault. Again it's all good mate.

Again you show the trouble you have with comprehending discussions and why you should ask for help with the big words first.


I even gave an example to make sure my point was clear and to pretend it was not clear you try to ignore the example.


What is true

- I want no one to die of covid. I stated that. You funnily enough ignore that part of the quote and selectively shrink the quote to isolate one part and proclaim it as the entire point and truth

- if someone is ALREADY dead (the body bag), then I hope it is not an innocent and is an aggressor.

Both can be true and are true.

I have to correct myself. IFO initially reported it to be at 5.96 million in April, but that was later corrected to 6.5 million. The peak was in May with 7.2 million, then 6.7 million in June. September was at 3.7 million.

The impact on the economy is obviously connected to how the virus outbreak is handled (number of infections, deaths, etc.). If a country has a strong export oriented economy, like Germany for example with 41% of the output being exports, this can have an impact that's beyond the countries control.

Might be a bit unrealistic, since he is probably too dumb to know which cards to cross out.

Having said that, I left villain a chance at a boat.

I hope you read my later post and reread the previous ones because that's not the way it is at all

The thing I am disputing is that's it's logically necessary to feel relief or anything psiitive about soemone dying in the circumstances you describe. The proclamation is simply that I dont generally experiecne those feelings that way. I accept your proclamation that you do.

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So let's take this to its logical extension. It's wrong to wish death on anyone, ever. Even if that person is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. Even if that person is actively threatening the democratic processes within your own country. Even if the death of that person could save people from dying.

Never is it ok to wish death on someone or celebrate the death of someone. Ever. Full stop. It's wrong to celebrate the deaths of men like Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden or Hitler. Anyone who is happy that those men are dead and not able to kill anymore is morally bankrupt, according to corpus.

Person 1 : yells fire in crowded theatre to cause chaos and death and gets cell phone out to film it for YouTube.

Person 1 : ends up being the only to die via getting stomped

QP : glad he was the only one to die and no innocent people died.


CV - how dare you wish death on any one. You are wishing death on someone


Logical people : no CV you are wrong. There is a distinction between wishing death on someone and instead hoping that now that THERE IS a dead person, that it is them who are the only victim of their actions.

right and I had already stated i understand people agreeing to disagree with my position.

This area of 'ethical distinctions' would be one of the most contentious in a 'debate' class. The overlap with peoples own held 'moral' views and how they would perceive this morally can and does color what they see as meaningful distinctions.

In the end I think the distinction you make is meaningless. It is semantic. You think it is the key distinction. So where do we go from there other than to agree to disagree.

When you instead simply proclaim I am wrong nad you are right (as you did) and there is no room for my view as a counterpoint, that is where i begin to check out.

Blimey.

Feel the same way about trump the politcian. Not feel the same way about whether he dies of covid or not - that's we're disputing.

No i dont feel at all at fault for not wishing him dead. I hope he recovers and loses bad in the election. I'd then like to see him in court a lot.

He's not responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths nor is he comparable to Bin Laden or Hitler,(Jasus what is it with you Americans and your melodramatics?). Cuepee hopes he dies simply because he dislikes him. That's all it boils down to regardless of all the excuses, hyperbole and ludicrous comparisons.

But we really all should be wishing death on anyone we dislike and anyone who doesn't is wrong, so again I get you.

Cliffs:
You're some can of piss mate.

Do you agree people can disagree with you on this point?

This is a meaningful distinction to see if you, in fact, can engage honestly in this discussion.

Well that's good, I'm glad I don't have to feel at fault for being able to condemn someone without hoping they die of covid

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Person 1 : yells fire in crowded theatre to cause chaos and death and gets cell phone out to film it for YouTube.

Person 1 : ends up being the only to die via getting stomped

QP : glad he was the only one to die and no innocent people died.


CV - how dare you wish death on any one. You are wishing death on someone


Logical people : no CV you are wrong. There is a distinction between wishing death on someone and instead hoping that now that THERE IS a dead person, that it is them who are the only victim of their actions.

The only proclamtion I make about you being wrong is if you insist that it follows from us agreeing with the premise of your argument that I or others have to feel relief or anyhting positive about someone dying. Even then I've given the logic and explained why so that it could be disputed.

I dont think it's just semantic although there's a healthy dose of semantics and I suppoe it maybe.

Thousands would have died regardless of who was in charge it doesn't make them directly responsible any more than the leaders of the UK and western Europe are directly responsible for their death tolls. You simply use anything at hand to bash Trump, so people can disagree all they like, it won't magically make them correct.

Ah so now wishing Trump to die of covid is the logical thing. I'll say one thing for you, your posts are entertaining as hell. Never change Cuepee

1. Yes he is

But more importantly, you're wrong that we dislike Trump. I dislike Joe Biden. I dislike Kamala Harris. I really, really dislike Hilary Clinton. In fact, I dislike 90% of American politicians. So no, it's not about disliking Trump.

Trump is dangerous. The things he has done and is trying to do are despicable and directly threaten people close to me (specifically regarding immigration/gay rights). That's why I would celebrate Trump dying the same way I would have celebrated someone like Hitler dying. I abhor him and all of the vile, repugnant things he stands for and I will absolutely be elated the day he dies.

Like I was saying - 30% of this country wants no part in a non-white-rule Democracy. This is scary that they're already saying the quiet part out loud.

Maybe the light bulb will eventually go on for some of you as to why the left has been so "insufferable" in recent times. This is scary ****.

lol