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10-31-2023 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
You claimed that there was mod action preventing you from calling the conflict a proxy war. If a mod deleted those posts, then I stand corrected and apologize. If not, then you are completely misrepresenting what is going on in that thread, then coming in here crying the blues. Anybody can go into that thread, see the exchange, and see that you are not being truthful. I don't even understand what your motives are anymore.
Go call it a proxy war and see what happens. And only if you think it is, do it was sincerity, and see what happens. I didn't claim a post of mine was deleted. I'm claiming that the loudest people here, when you show them they are wrong, they create a circular spam mess, and if they have the favor the mods, the mods will warn and ban the person that pointing out the truth.
10-31-2023 , 09:35 AM
You guys just couldn’t handle a purple thread.
10-31-2023 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
You guys just couldn’t handle a purple thread.

10-31-2023 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
If the focus become 'what is red/blue dualistic thinking' versus what is 'purple and balanced thinking'. The content would change.
The content wouldn’t change because everyone is expressing their own opinions of what is truth and what isn’t right now and they would be then as well. You can call it whatever you want but that won’t change the fact that there isn’t any objective classification of “purple balanced thinking”. If all you mean is people should strive to find common ground instead of being combative, I don’t see why this should always be a priority, who determines when this condition has been met, and you don’t need this color coding junk to say that.
10-31-2023 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubble_Balls
The content wouldn’t change because everyone is expressing their own opinions of what is truth and what isn’t right now and they would be then as well. You can call it whatever you want but that won’t change the fact that there isn’t any objective classification of “purple balanced thinking”. If all you mean is people should strive to find common ground instead of being combative, I don’t see why this should always be a priority, who determines when this condition has been met, and you don’t need this color coding junk to say that.
I think you are wrong. Of course experiment would tell us who is right. Or allow us to see. But when the focus is now on who isn't balanced versus who is, then then the petty fighting about the dualistic content will be viewed from a higher order. So it wouldn't fix things on the level you are thinking. But the purple thread would have a different nature, and I'm not convinced that wouldn't have an effect on the content.

I'm quite sure it would.
10-31-2023 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
How about an experimental PURPLE ONLY thread.
First, we need to define what you mean by PURPLE. But more importantly, then we need to define what you mean by EXPERIMENTAL. How can we even begin to have a conversation with defining the terms?
10-31-2023 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
these are the most hands off mods ever. you gotta understand that you are not a mainstream liberal poster so you will always get a little objectively unfair treatment and face unpunished abuse from people like d2.
you're a raving anti semite, so take a deep breath and be happy for the hands off mods
10-31-2023 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Didace
First, we need to define what you mean by PURPLE. But more importantly, then we need to define what you mean by EXPERIMENTAL. How can we even begin to have a conversation with defining the terms?
Homeslice is not big on definitions, yo.
10-31-2023 , 11:01 AM
Homeslice tells you how to build a watch when you ask him for the time.
10-31-2023 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Homeslice says he will tell you how to build a watch when you ask him for the time, but only after you tell him what you mean by "time" and how time is relevant.
There, that's better.
10-31-2023 , 11:31 AM
jbouton, the mod that posts frequently in the Russian v Ukraine thread is not a moderator in this forum. He is simply another poster.

jbouton, the title of that Invasion thread is fine and does not need to be changed.

jbouton, there will be no Purple thread... for all the reasons the current P&S mod crew has stated. You already create too much animosity; you already have a thread (SM) that SHOULD be a jbouton containment thread; your fixation on definitions is extraordinary.

Everyone, stop feeding the trolls in our forum. It is almost always unproductive and bogs down practically every thread.
10-31-2023 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
You claimed that there was mod action preventing you from calling the conflict a proxy war. If a mod deleted those posts, then I stand corrected and apologize. If not, then you are completely misrepresenting what is going on in that thread, then coming in here crying the blues. Anybody can go into that thread, see the exchange, and see that you are not being truthful. I don't even understand what your motives are anymore.
As far as I know, no mod of this forum has taken any action against a poster in that thread for calling the conflict a proxy war.
10-31-2023 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
As far as I know, no mod of this forum has taken any action against a poster in that thread for calling the conflict a proxy war.
10-31-2023 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
First, we need to define what you mean by PURPLE. But more importantly, then we need to define what you mean by EXPERIMENTAL. How can we even begin to have a conversation with defining the terms?
You keep making fun of me for this, but I use common definitions that are backed by wiki and the dictionary. Almost always. And I'm very clear when I don't, and I certainly mean to be. So I don't know why you keep implying I play word games.

My complaint you are in the middle of is that BGP won't allow the phrase 'proxy-war', to refer to the ukrain/russia conflict. Im not using a made up definition. I mean this:

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Originally Posted by wiki proxy war
A proxy war is an armed conflict between two states or non-state actors, one or both of which act at the instigation or on behalf of other parties that are not directly involved in the hostilities.[1] In order for a conflict to be considered a proxy war, there must be a direct, long-term relationship between external actors and the belligerents involved.[2] The aforementioned relationship usually takes the form of funding, military training, arms, or other forms of material assistance which assist a belligerent party in sustaining its war effort.[2]
Bpg only admits that its by a 'very loose definition':

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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
I think the majority believe it's a proxy war, although they are using a very loose definition for that term.
Its a proxy war, its not even debatable by the above definition. What does it means 'a very loose definition'?

Ur making fun of my use of words, but I'm not doing the thing you are implying. Look.
10-31-2023 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
As far as I know, no mod of this forum has taken any action against a poster in that thread for calling the conflict a proxy war.
Nor did anyone claim as such.
10-31-2023 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
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jbouton, there will be no Purple thread...
Is that a rule that will outweigh the community if the community decides it should be otherwise? And is it just purple, or also no other colors?

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You already create too much animosity;
Its not me that is the cause of the conflict
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Everyone, stop feeding the trolls in our forum.
You are dehumanizing me.

Spoiler:

dehumanizing
/dēˈ(h)yo͞oməˌnīziNG/
adjective
depriving a person or group of positive human qualities.
10-31-2023 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
Is that a rule that will outweigh the community if the community decides it should be otherwise?
Where would you put the probability of this event occurring?
10-31-2023 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Where would you put the probability of this event occurring?
Seems like a decent chance that a bunch of people want to keep egging him on for their own amusement.
10-31-2023 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
Nor did anyone claim as such.
You said:

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Originally Posted by jbouton
There is problem in the Ukraine russia thread. The prevalent mod in there will not let posters claim that the war is a proxy war between nato and russia.
That post certainly implied that some action had been taken by a moderator of the Politics forum to prevent posters from describing the conflict as a proxy war.
10-31-2023 , 06:40 PM
I’m more amused when they give him vacations to make him stfu.
10-31-2023 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
Is that a rule that will outweigh the community if the community decides it should be otherwise? And is it just purple, or also no other colors?
jbouton,

Three different moderators have told you that your "purple thread" idea isn't going to happen. There is no point in debating what would happen if there were widespread support for your idea because no such support exists.

Move on, or in the alternative, find a politics forum that is more in line with your desires and expectations.
10-31-2023 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
Nor did anyone claim as such.
Holy **** man, you're a truly, truly terrible communicator. I don't know how this hasn't become clear to you by now, because over and over again you get into disputes over definitions, what you mean when you say a certain word, trying to get others to agree on your definitions - you constantly have people unable to understand what you're saying. Far more time in discussions with you is spent on how the issues should be discussed, than on the actual issues themselves. And this has happened with all your past accounts, like when you've gone down Nash rabbit holes where very few people, if any, understand what you're saying.

This is what you said:

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Originally Posted by jbouton
There is problem in the Ukraine russia thread. The prevalent mod in there will not let posters claim that the war is a proxy war between nato and russia.
Quite clearly, that statement, and subsequent conversation about it, is causing confusion. So why don't you just explain it? Precisely who is not letting posters make this claim, and how are they doing so? Just spell it out.

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Originally Posted by jbouton
You keep making fun of me for this, but I use common definitions that are backed by wiki and the dictionary. Almost always.
No, you don't. Over and over again you get into debates over definitions you are using, and it happens on a more frequent basis with you than anyone else. It's time to take some responsibility for this. It's easy to solve - when there's confusion, explain yourself.

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Originally Posted by jbouton
Is that a rule that will outweigh the community if the community decides it should be otherwise? And is it just purple, or also no other colors?
All three mods have given you an answer, and so has the community. Let it go.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 10-31-2023 at 07:07 PM.
10-31-2023 , 07:08 PM
I dunno, jbouton seems pretty easy to understand. not sure why all you high iq posters have such trouble getting his points.

also, if jbou cant start a purple thread, could someone else?
10-31-2023 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
trying to get others to agree on your definitions - you constantly have people unable to understand what you're saying.
Hold on. I'm saying that I'm copy pasting the wiki and pointing to that, rather than pointing to a custom definition. You might be referring to the idea that I don't read wiki will, but thats not a counter to the point I made about how I use words.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Far more time in discussions with you is spent on how the issues should be discussed, than on the actual issues themselves.
To me that makes sense when its bunch of people with red/blue dualitistic arguing. Mindless back and forth predictable posting between lazy people.
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
And this has happened with all your past accounts, like when you've gone down Nash rabbit holes where very few people, if any, understand what you're saying.
There is NOTHING hard about this:



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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Quite clearly, that statement, and subsequent conversation about it, is causing confusion. So why don't you just explain it? Precisely who is not letting posters make this claim, and how are they doing so?
I did spell it out. If a someone favored by the mods gets shown up with truth, all they have to do invoke circularity into the dialogue until a mod comes in and warns/bans the unfavored person.

If you don't believe me, then go in the russia/ukraine thread and try to sincerely claim that the conflict is this:

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...an armed conflict between two states or non-state actors, one or both of which act at the instigation or on behalf of other parties that are not directly involved in the hostilities.[1] .... direct, long-term relationship between external actors and the belligerents involved.[2] The aforementioned relationship ...takes the form of funding, military training, arms, or other forms of material assistance which assist a belligerent party in sustaining its war effort.[2]
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
No, you don't. Over and over again you get into debates over definitions you are using, and it happens on a more frequent basis with you than anyone else.
There are few posters here that understand me perfectly enough, thats for sure.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
All three mods have given you an answer, and so has the community. Let it go.
So no threads where we try to achieve balance in dialogue rather than just arguing. Understood.
10-31-2023 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
also, if jbou cant start a purple thread, could someone else?
I told you people understand me. Do you want to claim its just one side of the political view? Red or blue? I'll bet its not a red blue thing. I'll bet there are people on both sides of the political spectrum that can see intelligence in the suggestion.

      
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