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06-26-2023 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
That's probably why it hasn't been deleted. Because the statement is factual.
No, it is not a factual statement that the "whole business of 'transing' minors is essentially a child-castration fetish". One can debate whether or not the rules of the forum should allow derogatory comments targeted at minority individuals or groups, but the fact is our forum does not allow this and hence the statement should not be allowed.
06-26-2023 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
The bolded is obviously the correct move here.

I pointed out that browser was permitting accusations of "child castration fetishes" ITT because it is so wildly and outrageously beyond the line of "derogatory comments" that our forum bans. Maybe he is just AWOL, who knows, but if that is so then it should be at least pointed out that this vile post is being left up.
But you refuse to even address the eunuch issue. Why is that?
06-26-2023 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
But you refuse to even address the eunuch issue. Why is that?
I explained to you in a different thread why I am not interested in following 57 on red (and now you? weird) down the castrati/eunuch rabbit hole. If this is something of great importance to you, feel free to go and start a thread about it, with respect to our moderator's wishes on keeping threads about trans issues on topic!
06-26-2023 , 12:45 PM
It's neither a rabbit hole or of great interest to me. You said to defer things to medical experts. I'm assuming wpath has experts in their organisation. They endorse eunuchs as a gender. I just want to know if you agree or disagree with them. This is not a "gotcha" attempt, I can assure you. You can disagree with their eunuch advocacy and still believe in transgender rights or gender assignment treatment for transgender people.

If you do disagree though then you need to acknowledge that wpath aren't infallible and that their expertise on say, gender reassignment surgery for minors should be taken with this caveat in mind, and this point isn't an attempted gotcha either.
If you do agree with surgery for eunuchs then...I can't think of any tactful way to finish this sentence so moving on...
The eunuch issue is on topic if wpath, a transgender advocacy group endorse it.

Again, stop getting so defensive. The transgender community have indeed faced and continue to face bigotry, intolerance and even hate crimes such as murder, so I'm willing to give you leeway on getting defensive. But If you refuse to address pertinent issues- and the eunuch endorsement is a very pertinent issue- then you've no justification in accusing others of transphobia when they mention it, calling for bans/deletions and generally being the board police and one also has to wonder about your motivations, if it's ideology on your part or genuinely caring about the transgender community and its minors in particular.
All I'm asking is for your honest opinion. If you're unwilling to give it, then again your motivations have to be regarded as suspect, sorry. You've debated in good faith before. Please do so here, thanks.
So with that in mind are you willing to give your opinion on wpath's endorsing of eunuchs as a gender? I would like your opinion on this.

Last edited by corpus vile; 06-26-2023 at 12:51 PM.
06-26-2023 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
It might be an excessive take, but isn't as out of line as you think considering children have been chemically/physically castrated. That's probably why it hasn't been deleted. Because the statement is factual.
It's a factual statement that the "whole business" of gender transition for minors is a fetish? I guess you could argue that it is an assertion of fact that has no claim to the truth, but that's a pretty weak defense.
06-26-2023 , 01:23 PM
When exaggeration and hyperbole also have elements of truth to it

Always an issue
06-26-2023 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
It's a factual statement that the "whole business" of gender transition for minors is a fetish? I guess you could argue that it is an assertion of fact that has no claim to the truth, but that's a pretty weak defense.
Fact or fake?

Trans "identifying" minors have been physically or chemically castrated

This is what I was alluding to. The word fetish might be an exaggeration. This is what is getting Uke worked up. I am not saying fetish is a fact, just what I wrote above.
06-26-2023 , 02:19 PM
I call bs

With the facts of human physiology, for so many to activity fear a 'school of thought' that would allegedly see greater and greater numbers of people opt to modify their person in some substantial way, it's insanity.

Next
06-26-2023 , 02:24 PM
Saying it is a fetish was clearly the main issue there, don't know how you can't seem to understand that.

It is the same as southern politicians calling people groomers, it implies that people are supporting trans youth for their own sexual gratification.

I'm very much against minors receiving any hormones or surgeries, but it is ridiculous slander to claim that those who disagree with me are effectively child molestors.
06-26-2023 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Saying it is a fetish was clearly the main issue there, don't know how you can't seem to understand that.

It is the same as southern politicians calling people groomers, it implies that people are supporting trans youth for their own sexual gratification.

I'm very much against minors receiving any hormones or surgeries, but it is ridiculous slander to claim that those who disagree with me are effectively child molestors.
I was simply explaining to Uke that the mod(s) haven't removed it because part of the statement is true. The fetish part is the exaggeration.

PW often makes these comments about white people, and the mods do nothing about it, despite being blatantly racist. I hypothesized that the mods keep these comments because of the truth behind both minor castration and white school shooters (what PW makes his racist posts about).

I do not justify the mod decision to keep the racist/transphobic comments, just highlighting the consistency amongst the various topics.
06-26-2023 , 03:46 PM
Well, you said the fetish comment was an "exaggeration", when it is not that at all, it's pure slander.
06-28-2023 , 12:08 PM
So is browser.....ok? It's been almost a week since he shut down the trans thread about mental health and he hasn't posted since. All the posts about "castrati" and the supposed "child castration fetish" that supports of gender-affirming care allegedly have are all up and uncommented after quite some debate ITT. No comments from browser. It isn't like him.
06-28-2023 , 12:20 PM
Yeah I was wondering as well. Hopefully he's off somewhere sipping coconut water or something.
06-28-2023 , 12:25 PM
Luckbox for new mod imo
06-28-2023 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Luckbox for new mod imo
Only if Trolly would co-mod with me.
06-28-2023 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
So is browser.....ok? It's been almost a week since he shut down the trans thread about mental health and he hasn't posted since. All the posts about "castrati" and the supposed "child castration fetish" that supports of gender-affirming care allegedly have are all up and uncommented after quite some debate ITT. No comments from browser. It isn't like him.
I heard he blocked you
06-28-2023 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Luckbox for new mod imo
I second this on the condition that he use his moderation powers to EXPOSE THE HORRIBLE TRUTH
06-28-2023 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
I second this on the condition that he use his moderation powers to EXPOSE THE HORRIBLE TRUTH
You can't handle the truth.

Neither can I tbph.
06-28-2023 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
So is browser.....ok? It's been almost a week since he shut down the trans thread about mental health and he hasn't posted since. All the posts about "castrati" and the supposed "child castration fetish" that supports of gender-affirming care allegedly have are all up and uncommented after quite some debate ITT. No comments from browser. It isn't like him.
He's fine with all of it, I don't know why that isn't clear to you.
06-28-2023 , 05:31 PM
He deleted a post that I asked him to
06-28-2023 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
He deleted a post that I asked him to
No, I did that as you PMed me as well. I don't mod Politics, but that was a pretty basic one so I went ahead and did it.

I don't believe browser's logged on for about 6 days, so I'll PM him and see if everything is all right. I'm out of the country myself for a few weeks, so I'm not on the forum as much currently.
06-28-2023 , 05:43 PM
Oh ok thank you
06-28-2023 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
He's fine with all of it, I don't know why that isn't clear to you.
Perhaps, but we usually get a big speech about it.
06-28-2023 , 07:36 PM
https://uwimprint.ca/article/stabbing-at-hagey-hall/

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On Wednesday afternoon at approximately 4 p.m., a stabbing incident occurred toward the end of PHIL 202: Gender Issues in Hagey Hall. According to the Waterloo Regional Police Services three individuals were sent to hospital and the suspect was apprehended.

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According to Li, a man of about 20-30 years of age entered the class and asked the professor what the class was about. The man closed the door, pulled two knives out of his backpack and proceeded to attack the professor. Students ran to the back of the class to exit out of the one class entrance. “It feels [shocking],” Li said. “If I ranked the safe[ty] of the university, maybe I’d give them… maybe 3, 3.5 [out of 5], because everyone can come in our university, and we don’t have security right? … they can come in our buildings.”

Third-year AFM student Jackson Yan was studying on the third floor of Hagey Hall when the stabbing occurred. According to Yan, the incident occurred in HH 139, where the suspect missed the professor but “ended up attacking one or two other people”. Yan described a student in the class who ran out and screamed for others to run, which is when notifications popped up telling students to leave and when police showed up.
06-28-2023 , 07:44 PM
Did you mean to post that in this thread?

      
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