Walking literally within feet of the cops with looted goods and they don't do ****.

Some good speeches and some good drums with some cops bending the knee. Not seeing any thugs or mischief makers.

the police are targeting the press all over the US

compilation here: https://twitter.com/N_Waters89

Agreed. One can chairtably view it as a last warning to cops.

I don't support cops killing and oppressing people.
I also don't turn a blind eye to citizens killing each other, pretending someone's death only matters if it happened at the hands of a cop or at least someone of a different race.
I also don't pretend people getting killed in riots isn't happening the way some in this thread have.

As much as I wouldn't condone violence or property damage the Ferguson protests became, after the police subdued the initial protests, some ghoulish event where the police would surround the protesters on all sides, give them a strict route to march by and ordered them to never stop moving because if they did they'd be yanked out for obstructing the road (there were/are no sidewalks).

It became this perverse event were cops got to leer and jeer at people under their thumb

Who exactly are the oppressors? I thought it was the state.

Dude. Are you blind? You keep repeating yourself. You're literally trying to tell chaos to organize itself better or go home. It's not happening bro. This is a virus that's just going to run its course. Brace for impact if it's coming to you. I hope it doesn't. Just saying

The power of social media. Driving literally everyone insane with its hooks in everyone's individual brain

This is a really important point and I want to extend this further. I've reviewed a lot of evidence, talked to a lot of people and the conclusion I came to was that a lot of the police departments around the country are not only escalating the situation by deliberately provoking the protesters, they are also doing as little as possible to stop the looting because they believe widespread looting helps them. The police wants the looters to keep looting and peaceful protesters to become violent. They are not only abusing their power, but they are being deliberately negligent in order to send a message. It's a mistake to connect the widespread looting and property damage to the protesters, as though it's necessary collateral damage - I see this mistake being made on both sides - when they are caused by the police deciding to focus their power primarily on peaceful protesters, while ignoring the looters. It wouldn't be difficult for the police to focus on the looters and vandals, while supporting the peaceful protesters. After all, they are outnumbered by the protesters, but they outnumber the vandals and looters. But they don't want to.

I agree with you. We shouldn't turn a blind eye to interracial crime. We should help reduce it. As you know income is a huge determining factor in crime. To help reduce black on black crime we should support giving each and every single black person 10,000 dollars a year to help improve their income and therefor reduce the intraracial black crime rate, do you support that with me?

Terminal Trump Derangement Syndrome itt.

This isn't really much different from people losing their **** after having to lockdown long enough for Coronavirus. After several days of this madness, seeing violence, friends or family hurt or killed, the insanity on the internet, people are losing their ****

They just want it to end. Military? **** it. Bring them in and end this **** we can't take it anymore. And of course many of them aren't going to give a **** about who they view as criminals anyway. Some might and still feel this is the right thing to do. It can't just go on forever

How many more people need to die, or businesses destroyed? My guess is until Trump resigns? I dunno, but you can't be of your right mind if there is a mob at your door throwing bricks at you and you just sit here and type **** it, let my house burn...I think most people are just terrified and don't know what to feel or want to happen. There's no good outcome

Not in England, where the Metropolitan Police in London were raised by Sir Robert Peel as Home Secretary in 1829 so that the Army did not have to police civil disorder. Policing in England is still run on the basis of Peel's General Instructions to the Metropolitan Police, known as the Peelian Principles, which all new police officers are required to observe and which read as follows:-

https://thecrimepreventionwebsite.co...an-principles/

Of course, US police forces are paramilitary and don't operate in the same way.

Justin Amash has submitted a proposal to end qualified immunity. This is a step in the right direction.

No it isn’t and it isn’t going anywhere besides IE it isn’t a serious proposal.

The state will save you actually.

You really think Obama can walk safely to the White House in public in this atmosphere?

The police have had enough!

Idk what the big fuss with the police is all abt. We know they gassed peaceful protesters and reporters for trump's photo op, but it also included clergy.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...trump-photo-op

It may not get passed but it’s still something worth pushing for. How exactly wouldn’t it help? Do you support qualified immunity?

It may not help specific cases like Floyd’s but anything to curb police power is a step in the right direction. It’s one of many reforms that are necessary.

Save me from what?

From everything. Corona, the riots, the Chinese, alien invasions, global warming, yellowstone super volcano. You name it they've got a solution. The state can even save you from the state.

All good. I just think people are too rich to give a **** these days. And MLK was assassinated. Not sure I would ever think to call someone a coward for not choosing to walk through the veritable crossfire

Also involving Michael Baden. Guy is everywhere.

It is putting a name to something which actually takes place, that is a good thing and a serious thing.

Qualified immunity as I understand it is a US legal precedent not covered by actual law. That seems like a terrible principle to govern matters of law enforcement and liability. If there is one thing you need for law enforcement it is accountability. It is hard to get that when the principles that hold them accountable is a legal quagmire.

Said accountability should be clearly defined by regulation an law, not shoe-horned out from legal principles by courts not given direction.

I am not a US citizen, but I'm human and that what happend to George Floyd makes me sick to my stomach. Also, I am very pro-riots (no, not Antifa). It is to a certain degree counterproductive, but in Europe most countries have a rich history in bringing their disapproval and anger to the streets - especially in Paris, Berlin etc.

What I obviously do condemn though, are all the people who are getting themselves some nice new Gucci shirts. They should rather throw stones and burn public US buildings down than aiming specifically at the most expensive, typically foreign, fashion boutiques. But yeah, they obviously don't care about the issue. What is even more unfortunate is the apparent fact, that the absolute vast majority of looters is african-american. That is grist to the mills of racists.

Finally, US cops are really the biggest pussies (not all, I know). They are so talented in showing up with 8 guys and shooting unarmed, preferably black people. But they can't even stop the smallest group of looters.


(!) --> It wasn't my aim to sound disparingly towards US citizens, but I had to throw at least one verbal stone.