You are wrong. That is the problem with police right now. They approach every single situation with the desire to implement aggressive force.

If 99.999% of interactions do not require aggressive violence, that shouldn’t be the first, second, third, fourth, or fifth option.

The reality is police create their own worst case scenarios by escalating situations with their aggressiveness and violence.

This should help

If what you say is true there would be hundreds of George Floyd cases every day.

Again, why do you think police are better trained or more experienced in dealing with people who are high.

You simply do not understand the discussion and are ignorant about so much you think the police hammer is the first best solution always.

No not 90%. If 10% of police interactions are violent (lol) then police are responsible for escalating 99% of that 10%.

Police are pretty much the worst people to confront someone who is high.

Uhh, that is basically what the original article was addressing by looking at the impact of the change in Portugal.

To summarise though, since drug use was decriminalised in 2001 (while distribution and such was still illegal) overall drug use has declined, HIV/Hepatitis and other illnesses associated with injecting drugs has drastically declined, and drug related crime has declined. It's important to note that the policy change also included significant improvements to social welfare provisions and a focus on drugs as a health problem rather than a crime problem but it is a very good case study of how the issue can be handled without draconian policing.

If you're genuinely interested and not just trying to score points then there is a very well referenced report on the impacts of the changes in Portugal available here https://transformdrugs.org/wp-conten...Portugal_0.pdf

Interesting read.

It’s still tangential to the point: Wookie claims that we won’t need to investigate violent drug gangs if we adopt Portuguese model. That doesn’t follow. If drugs are still illegal then violent drug gangs will continue to peddle them and violence will result and someone will need to address that. It won’t be social workers.

Also, it looks like the article didn’t really address violent crime rates? Except to note that robberies went up?

Oh really? And why is that?

You think every time the police escalate a situation it results in a shooting murder of a civilian?

You simply are not on the same playing field of understanding here. It seems like a waste of typing to have to keep explaining every single thing to you so you can discuss it.

There are a myriad of results that happen due to police aggressiveness and escalation. An encounter that could have ended in a polite discussion gets pushed by police until they end up arresting the person for resisting.

http://bostonreview.net/race-law-jus...sisting-arrest

Resisting is another one size fits all tool for police. They approach almost every interaction with civilians with aggressiveness in hopes of getting it into a resisting situation where the rules shift into their favor. This is SOP for law enforcement.

White or black, nobody should ever just be charged with resisting arrest. It does not even make sense and should be entirely illegal.


Those dang uppity blacks!

https://www.wnyc.org/story/resisting...t-black-white/

thats why I am for full legalization. as a capitalist, I prefer my violent gangs to be reputable corporations.

Why aren't they a problem in Portugal?

Looks like Wild’s article, ostensibly favoring Portugal’s policy against naysayers, concedes that homicides went up sharply in the years after the decriminalization was implemented.

Why are you so bad at knowing the facts?

Guy in here saying resisting arrest shouldn’t be illegal.

Hahaohwow.

Also, maybe people are charged with resisting arrest more because they, stay with me here, resist arrest more!

Why are you so bent on misrepresenting everything? They also went back down, and it's not clear the rise was due to the drug policy change.

Oh really? Care to cite a post of mine where I celebrate the deaths of black people or protesters. Otherwise kindly stfu.

Interesting to see you actually admit that you would celebrate violence against Trump[ supporters. No doubt you were happy when that Trump supporter got murdered in Portland. Pretty disgusting but not surprising coming from the likes of you.

If you really want to end drug violence, just legalize all drugs completely. Then Bayer can go back to selling heroin and the street gangs will find themselves unemployed and in need of a new line of work.

I learned from you Dad

then how would the CIA make money? and how would we be able to lock up hundreds of thousands of people so that private prisons make money?

Nancy? Nancy is that you?

You are a racist.

Plus your first sentence is total gibberish.

If they are ONLY charged with resisting arrest what arrest were they resisting. I know logic, thoughtfulness, compassion, and understanding are not your forte but try to at least pretend you don’t qualify to be a police officer.

Hey, I was browsing through and for some reason I was reminded that Hillary is still free.

I thought the law and order conservatives were going to lock her up.

All talk, no action. What a let down.

Everyone is a racist, to some degree.

Only actual racists wouldn’t realize that and would point the finger with such self-congratulation.

I agree with this. We all favor our own and distrust strangers. It starts with family and goes down the line. It's natural instincts.
The big difference is, some of us act out on that racism. Even if it's just agreeing with or condoning repressive and violent behavior towards people that are different than us.

Racism being common doesn't mean we have to accept or normalize it, or set our policies in a way that builds it in. Generally, we should organize society around our highest principles, not our basest instincts.

I took an anti-racism class in college (luckily it was mandatory) and literally the first thing we discussed was that to be anti-racist it's necessary to acknowledge our own internal biases. But what you seem to be implying is that it's fine for you to say and do racist things because we all have these biases, so who cares. Going to have to disagree with that.

I do agree with your point that usually the people who have to keep saying they aren't racist or claiming racism isn't a real problem tend to be the most racist.

This. I am always analyzing my actions, behaviors and words to see how biases might be impacting the way I interact with people and the world.

GodgersWOAT is “F it man, everyone is racist bro n word n word n word!”

To clarify GodgersWOAT you are fully racist, with no care or consideration for your bigotry or how it impacts others,