Hahahahahahah

Please, everyone click this link and see how the protests made crime go up in the month of May.

Maybe you should read the first paragraph of the article and it will tell you. I'll give you a hint, your intuitions are very invacuate and you should probably not be following them at all.

George Floyd was murdered on May 25th. So not sure what the crime rate for all of May has to do with it.

The cops love/d having buds illegal--because as they'll often tell you--everyone smokes--so it ends up being an incredibly easy way for them to 'get their foot in the door' and start looking around for whatever else they can find. When they're not lamenting that change--and saying just wait til we change it back they're claiming all the stoners will turn in to car thieves or whatever because they're just 'criminals' and various other bs. You've at least got to recognize that things are zany when the argument has effectively morphed in to--we need to keep cannabis/drugs illegal to prevent crime.

Of course these are the same guys who used to tell us buds would make you turn gay and vaporize your chromosomes lol I miss the good old days when fake news was just funny. Maybe if we legalize drugs--California will crack off and fall in the ocean too

And, of course, the two posters who asked for citations wound up being totally justified in doing so with even Kelhus the independent nonpartisan dumbass admitting bahbah made some **** up

Legalizing drugs means we're going to have a bunch of junkies on the streets and young kids OD'ing in record numbers.
As opposed to what we have now...

https://time.com/4779112/police-history-origins/

Although I'm strongly in favor of a massive overhaul of policing, I'm not for abolishing it altogether. But I think it's interesting to note that policing as we know it is actually not as old as one would imagine.

I think you, like many liberals, attempt to tie conservatives to that word as much as you can even when it doesn't apply. This is one of those cases. As I asked before: how can what I suggested trump do be considered fascist? Opening the economy to let the people make their own decisions and protecting people from violent rioters seems like the opposite of fascism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

I think fascism can only be described as a political movement. In other words, a philosophy of a governing body.
It is not a popular movement of the people. And it certainly has nothing to do with socialism, or liberals, as the conservatives seem to imply. Quite the opposite.

Fwiw I understand a lot more about the way the world works than you do. Hopefully that helps. Come join me in whatever thread if you'd like to be educated.

A popular movement of the people can be very totalitarian, arbitrary, lead to very poor outcomes for all, and invariably results in a fascist government taking control in the power vacuum.

Whether it meets the threshold of the exact dictionary definition of fascism isn't particularly relevant, except as a bad faith arguing point.

I don't want to derail this thread with a debate on the definition of fascism, but feel free to start another and I will join. I use it as short-hand for "right wing authoritarianism" but that may indeed be a bit loose.

I saw your police bros crack a lot of heads when people where peaceful but when the looting was in full swing they were no where to be found.

They aren't enforcing 'the law'. They're enforcing fascism to keep the serfs (you) in line.

But at least you're a good serf and thank the King after he takes your daughter. God gave him the right to boink her and you're not one to argue with God.

Yes, I can't argue with that. It can very well start as a popular movement.
But where it ultimately ends up will determine if it's ultimately a fascist movement or something else.

Asking for proper citations is, in fact, not following intuition. Maybe you should try not being so mother****ing stupid like ALL of the time with this accusing others of precisely what the **** you are doing..

You made a claim about crime rates and linked a news article as support when asked. You, the guy relentlessly railing against the narrative-driven media. It had no link to any data or even to it's source. What I used my intuition for is to call out this BS of yours.

@wellnamed, this is extreme, hardcore, bad faith posting.

How do you think this forum can foster discussion when people AIDS over known facts?

If Mickey doesn’t know the answer to that question he is too stupid to be posting here or if he does, it is extreme bad faith posting. We can not have a legitimate discussion with what should be done with the police when people like Mickey plant their bad faith flag in an unjustified police murder.

This cycle happens in so many threads here and it is usually one of a handful of people. Mickey may or may not be the worst but he definitely taking the medal stand.

no its just what is beaten into our heads and its what clowns like bahbah et al spout.

anyway, I was just distilling the point many were making about Bre.

well put

The year-on-year change in reports of violent crime in NYC for the 28 days up to June 21th is -8%. That is the exact 4 weeks following Floyd's death and not only was there not a "huge uptick in violent crime", there was actually less than the same period last year.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/dow...en-us-city.pdf

Daily Mail not reporting on this. What other secret media outlets do you consume?

I read a ridiculous amount every day about all manner of things and I don’t recall seeing as much as a blurb claiming violent crime has skyrocketed since the protests have started.

no social safety net and health care so we gotta throw the junkies in jail.

and no, opiates in particular dont themselves cause people to commit crimes. its when the opiates run out. theres lots of very cheap ways to address that.

but as 5 south keeps missing the point about, cops and the drug war make trillions of dollars so they arent going anywhere.

George Floyd died on May 25th. There were no protests for days. You cited an article that specifically compared Y2Y MAY.

The only people who were protesting during May were right wing lunatics who are too dumb to wear a mask.

When you said protests came with an increase in crime you did not specify which protests. Guess you got us on that! Also how do we know the newspaper did not just make up those numbers?

Daily Mail definitely has plenty of reports of crime rates skyrocketing. I deliberately avoided linking a DM story, as you, Wookie et al. would just hand wave it away anyways, so what is the point.

Like I said, you guys are very Trumpian in your philosophy of the world that unless information is presented by a source that ideologically aligns with you (which it won't, because the media sources ideologically aligned with you suppress such news) then it didn't happen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ned-1-day.html

I know you will just hand wave it away, but here is a story of Chicago over Labor Day weekend having pretty much unprecedented levels of gun violence/murder. There are lots and lots of news stories like this. The media you consume just ignores these facts because they are ideologically inconvenient, so in your mind it didn't happen.

I could very easily keep a running diary of rising violent crime/murder stories you would never see, because of the information silo you insulate yourself in, although I am sure WN would object.

bolded was for the same reason Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus are never in the same room together

You said the military should go into Seattle and lock it down.

lol u