Update: Philadelphia cops cheered for and saluted the cop in this incident who was charged with assault

Also, a Florida police union posted a recruitment ad of sorts to recently arrested cops, saying "Hey Buffalo 57... and Atlanta 6... we are hiring in Florida"


Policing is a safer job than being a fisherman

wiper, jman, veeektore on this page. makes me smile.

Or a cabbie. Or a roofer. Etc. Etc. Where is the epidemic of cab drivers gunning people down?

Let's dispel the notion that cops are heroes who risk their lives. It's the opposite: they're ****s who kill someone the instant their life is on the line, and often when it's not.

Well, he’s probably not hopping on a flight to China anyway.

Just saw that and it is pretty powerful actually.

This has been a wake up call for me. ok, maybe im not woke. but jfc. i dont have any answers... but the culture of the cops around this country needs to change.

i heard 10% of people test out as narcissistic douches. but 40% of cops do. Honestly, I did hear that on the news from a no doubt expert (FBI retired, PHd psy, ex-soldier) (note because anatta admits he is a narcissistic douche by definition he isnt one. anatta the great one in this world and in the world beyond. with abs. isnt a narcissistic douche because he admits he is. damm, anatta that was so great i dont give u enough credit. u are probably the best poster on 2 plus 2.)

I'm old enough to have lived in downtown NYC during September 11. That event alone would prevent me from ever having as unnuanced a view of the police as you have. There is a policing problem in this country, but no purpose is served by pretending that every police officer is a monster with no regard for for human life.

It's understandable that the focus is on big city police departments, but I suspect that your average rural county sheriff''s office does worse on a per encounter basis than your average large city police department.

it's not like other jobs. i couldn't do it, in my prime, for more than a short period of time, without destroying myself. these are just men. maybe they were flawed to begin with, maybe it takes that type to do this job. who knows what it takes to write tickets for days, arrest a rapist, then interrogate a gang banger. year after year. u see the blood and guts. u might have to pull that pistol. cmon man...a lot of these guys are heroes. they give up everything for the badge. some are disgusting morons.

this is a strawman. the phrase is that all cops are bad.

Responding to this post more as a jumping off point and not because I necessarily think you disagree, but like - police are far from the only group of people in history to have risen to the call when placed in an extraordinary situation at an extraordinary time. See also: health care workers around the world in the past 4 months. The degree to which police, out of all those groups, are placed on a pedestal today is absurd. There's no equivalent of a "thin blue line" flag or "blue lives matter" for firefighters or nurses, it's pure culture war fuel.

cash bail shouldnt exist.

he's also the definition of a flight risk, as i believe he had already fled to florida.

as a member of the defense bar i believe that everyone should have access to bail provided they aren't a danger to society. however, police officers are currently attempting their best to show how dangerous they are to society..

LOL. If he jumps to Florida, don't think they would find him and bring him back for trial? For a 20% fee most bail bondsman would post it. Is very secure bail.

Lol at comparing 9/11 to cops average interaction with non inanimate objects.

Pretend the towers were humans who didn't comply with a direct order to "show their hands". They would have been the ones to knock them down.

Cops #1 job is to make it home at the end of watch. If that means killing someone who they could argue got in the way of that objective - that's exactly what they will do.

You should read about the guy who does 300 seminars a year for the past 20 years training federal and local law enforcement on when they should kill (I forget his name but I'm sure someone as smart as you can find it. Grossman or some ****). But the above paragraph is basically word for word from his seminars.

Do they occasionally perform acts of bravery? Ya, id ****ing hope so, that's their ****ing job.

Are u referring to this incident?
https://youtu.be/lj3AiiFoyLE?list=LL..._6zA_rEA&t=202

Yeah, I'm not buying this without data. I'm pretty sure rates of police violence correlate with population density. Fear drives violence. Rural police don't have a whole lot to fear. The threat and frequency and fear of violence is far greater in the city. Rural police rarely have to draw their weapon.

Biden and the demE have come out emphatically against any sort of police defunding. They align exactly with the conservatives on the end result, though as you say they likely are willing to pay lip service to making the police kinder and gentler.

Biden and the Democrats have the chance to vocalize their platform at their convention.

There is no hurry on this.

Guessing Trump and the Republicans will vocalize law and order at their convention.

There is time to think about this and do it correctly on both sides. Biden be best to tread lightly and work hard on creating the platform that creates real change. If he had half a brain, he would work with President Obama to deliver this particular message at the convention.

What are you talking about? He is moving the convention to a city not worried about COVID.

It's Trump. Will be a HUGE CONVENTION! BIGGER THAN ANY CONVENTION EVER DONE! BEST PLATFORM EVER CREATED!

its actually impossible to move convention. security, contracts...he might be able to give his acceptance speech elsewhere. but NC it is. i know. hard to believe Trump ran his mouth without understanding the depth of the situation.

Trump saying he wants policing done "in a much more gentle fashion"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...on-white-house

If you have any doubt about Trump's lifelong racism, you must be strung out and higher than the Eiffel Towelie from injecting Clorox.

Like many Trump statements, this will be gone and forgotten within a week. The last person who was in his ear before this meeting must have been urging moderation, but just wait until he's in front of a rally crowd again and he'll be bragging about cops beating the hell out of protesters.

Is he going to issue them with pillows?